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> end-to-end encryption has never been shown to work in a real system with normal people Matrix has solved this problem.

• apitman 1y ago
  I've tried to adopt Matrix multiple times over years. IMO the UX is evidence that e2ee is not solved.
  • Arathorn 1y ago
    we solved it in element x, but there appears to be massive inertia towards adopting it because it doesn’t have threads or spaces yet.
    • apitman 1y ago
      If I only use 1 device for 5 years, then lose it, how do I recover?
      • fsflover 1y ago
        From a backup?
        • apitman 1y ago
          Backed up from what? People only use the cloud for backups, at which point the e2ee is compromised.
          • fsflover 1y ago
            It doesn't matter what people are currently doing. In Matrix, there is a possibility to make reliable, encrypted backups. It can also be done with a simple interface.