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Why it will get worse? They got what they voted for.

by timeon 1y ago

mindslight 1y ago
Because they're never fucking satisfied by what they've actually voted for. It's essentially the fundamentalist dynamic of blind faith, applied to the real world and making for terrible results. The con artists they vote for are plainly not going to help their interests (and often work against them), yet they reject understanding this and instead buy into simplistic emotional propaganda that validates their frustrations and absolves their responsibility. Then after some years go by when the mess has set in and Democrats have the nominal power, the Republican media machine goes to work highlighting everything they've broken and pinning it on the current administration. Rinse and repeat. (context: I'm a libertarian and I have many criticisms of the Democrats as well, but at least they haven't been directly sabotaging the country for the past several decades, culminating in this)
gorbachev 1y ago
The issue is that what they voted for isn't going to improve anything in their personal circumstances. Not only because what's happening doesn't actually fix any of the issues, but even worse, it's being used to siphon money to private hands friendly with Trump. There are no good outcomes until people stop voting for these grifters and con men.
oblio 1y ago
Didn't Trump just cut taxes for the top 1% while most of his voters are low earners with low educational attainment?
- spwa4 1y ago
  That would be one reason things won't get better for his voters. At which point they'll look for more extreme politicians. It will get worse. Hell, it already has gotten worse in both France and Germany compared to the US. Imho Macron is more or less the same kind of politician as Trump (rich, and in it to make the rich richer), just a very different person (for one thing he's easily got 10x Trump's IQ, 10x Trump's looks, and doesn't look like an ancient golden retriever that got demummified for a presidential term). Obviously this guy failed to improve France's economic prospects, and every election cycle the actual Nazis, led by Le Pen, gain 5% extra of the vote. Germany differs a lot in the details, but something similar is happening. The situation in (some parts of) Europe is like if you're hoping for 3rd Trump term, because Steve Bannon became a presidential candidate that polls over 50%. When Trump has just made immigration policy stricter in desperation, because even Trump realizes what a disaster that would be.

Why it will get worse? They got what they voted for.

by timeon 1y ago

Why it will get worse? They got what they voted for.

Because they're never fucking satisfied by what they've actually voted for. It's essentially the fundamentalist dynamic of blind faith, applied to the real world and making for terrible results. The con artists they vote for are plainly not going to help their interests (and often work against them), yet they reject understanding this and instead buy into simplistic emotional propaganda that validates their frustrations and absolves their responsibility. Then after some years go by when the mess has set in and Democrats have the nominal power, the Republican media machine goes to work highlighting everything they've broken and pinning it on the current administration. Rinse and repeat. (context: I'm a libertarian and I have many criticisms of the Democrats as well, but at least they haven't been directly sabotaging the country for the past several decades, culminating in this)

gorbachev 1y ago

The issue is that what they voted for isn't going to improve anything in their personal circumstances. Not only because what's happening doesn't actually fix any of the issues, but even worse, it's being used to siphon money to private hands friendly with Trump. There are no good outcomes until people stop voting for these grifters and con men.

oblio 1y ago

Didn't Trump just cut taxes for the top 1% while most of his voters are low earners with low educational attainment?

spwa4 1y ago
That would be one reason things won't get better for his voters. At which point they'll look for more extreme politicians. It will get worse. Hell, it already has gotten worse in both France and Germany compared to the US. Imho Macron is more or less the same kind of politician as Trump (rich, and in it to make the rich richer), just a very different person (for one thing he's easily got 10x Trump's IQ, 10x Trump's looks, and doesn't look like an ancient golden retriever that got demummified for a presidential term). Obviously this guy failed to improve France's economic prospects, and every election cycle the actual Nazis, led by Le Pen, gain 5% extra of the vote. Germany differs a lot in the details, but something similar is happening. The situation in (some parts of) Europe is like if you're hoping for 3rd Trump term, because Steve Bannon became a presidential candidate that polls over 50%. When Trump has just made immigration policy stricter in desperation, because even Trump realizes what a disaster that would be.