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Very feasible solution I guess the only issue is that we now have to add friction for legitimate users which will only accelerate their migration to AI summarie

Very feasible solution I guess the only issue is that we now have to add friction for legitimate users which will only accelerate their migration to AI summaries at the top of the page.

altairprime 1y ago
AI is on course to destroy anonymous web browsing due to the costs it inflicts on server operators; user friction, whether via manual input or proof of work interstitial or otherwise, is the only remaining alternative to attested identity, pseudonymous or not. This is HN, so I’m suggesting a non-attestation solution, which is therefore user friction.
- makingstuffs 1y ago
  Oh I agree with you entirely, not in disagreement at all. Just highlighting the absurdity of the world that this is where we are. I was discussing with my partner recently the fact that I believe this is all heading to a licensed, centralised internet. I can very easily foresee the path we are blindly wandering leading to an authoritarian space in which websites and hosting will only be available to a select few, for a hefty fee. The justification will be ‘think of the children’ or ‘we need to control what your AI agents can connect to as there are bad actors whom will convince your AI agents to give them your funds and personal, private data’ Obviously just pure speculative hyperbole to be taken with a tbsp of salt, but, yeah, I can see the path quite clearly judging by how little friction governments get for their reckless and nefarious actions nowadays.
  - altairprime 1y ago
    Ultimately, the web will revert to where it was before full text search harvested and profited from all the curated indexes of content — and, bluntly, we did fine back then! It was a lot less shitty of a web than we have now :) And it’ll be a lot easier to be open with others when someone can’t just full-text search their way to our bulletin board (forums used to be called that, since they derived their core structure from BBSes!) to hate on us. Will be harder to use the web for problem-solving in esoteric corner cases, because you’ll have to find the right enthusiast community and jump through some hoops to sign up and become a trusted member. Can’t wait, honestly.

Very feasible solution I guess the only issue is that we now have to add friction for legitimate users which will only accelerate their migration to AI summaries at the top of the page.

altairprime 1y ago

AI is on course to destroy anonymous web browsing due to the costs it inflicts on server operators; user friction, whether via manual input or proof of work interstitial or otherwise, is the only remaining alternative to attested identity, pseudonymous or not. This is HN, so I’m suggesting a non-attestation solution, which is therefore user friction.

makingstuffs 1y ago
Oh I agree with you entirely, not in disagreement at all. Just highlighting the absurdity of the world that this is where we are. I was discussing with my partner recently the fact that I believe this is all heading to a licensed, centralised internet. I can very easily foresee the path we are blindly wandering leading to an authoritarian space in which websites and hosting will only be available to a select few, for a hefty fee. The justification will be ‘think of the children’ or ‘we need to control what your AI agents can connect to as there are bad actors whom will convince your AI agents to give them your funds and personal, private data’ Obviously just pure speculative hyperbole to be taken with a tbsp of salt, but, yeah, I can see the path quite clearly judging by how little friction governments get for their reckless and nefarious actions nowadays.
- altairprime 1y ago
  Ultimately, the web will revert to where it was before full text search harvested and profited from all the curated indexes of content — and, bluntly, we did fine back then! It was a lot less shitty of a web than we have now :) And it’ll be a lot easier to be open with others when someone can’t just full-text search their way to our bulletin board (forums used to be called that, since they derived their core structure from BBSes!) to hate on us. Will be harder to use the web for problem-solving in esoteric corner cases, because you’ll have to find the right enthusiast community and jump through some hoops to sign up and become a trusted member. Can’t wait, honestly.