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I disagree, YMCA lessons are not accessible. First off, you don't know what level your child is, and I remember being stressed trying to read our Ys website to

I disagree, YMCA lessons are not accessible. First off, you don't know what level your child is, and I remember being stressed trying to read our Ys website to understand what the levels meant. This is important because 2, the classes fill very quickly. You have to know what you want and sign up as soon as they're available. And finally, the classes are at very specific times, which certainly do not work for all working parents schedules. For example, it will just be tue or Thur at 5:45pm. If you can't make that you are SOL.

kortilla 1y ago
Put them at the lowest level if you don’t know. That’s easy. As far as schedule goes, who’s taking care of the kid? At age 3 or 4 when you do this, it’s not like they are in school so some adult has to be around at 5:45pm.
- _dark_matter_ 1y ago
  Look, I'm telling you this from my perspective as someone who tried to do the exact thing you're saying. If those things stressed me out as an adult who knows about swimming, and crucially prevented me from signing up my kids for swimming lessons at the Y, then it is going to be even more true for people who are low income and not knowledgeable. These are real barriers. Acting like they're not is just putting our collective head in the sand and letting the problem perpetuate.
  - kortilla 1y ago
    Your barrier sounds like some other anxiety issue unrelated to economic status. You know how important swimming lessons are and yet just gave up and skipped it entirely? Or are you actually privileged and had other swimming lesson options for your kid and just didn’t want to bother with the affordable system’s constraints? Lots of lower middle class/poor including me when I was growing up went to this without a problem. 25 cent public bus ride with mom was an adventure
    - KittenInABox 1y ago
      How long are you from being poor? Are you poor now? Did you raise a child while poor within the last 5 years? Public bus rides in my area are 9x your cost, and 4x that cost for elderly people.
      - kortilla 1y ago
        Public bus rides cost proportionately the same to min wage in California if that helps. The Y and the bus haven’t turned into upscale things if that’s the point you’re trying to make.

kortilla 1y ago

Put them at the lowest level if you don’t know. That’s easy. As far as schedule goes, who’s taking care of the kid? At age 3 or 4 when you do this, it’s not like they are in school so some adult has to be around at 5:45pm.

_dark_matter_ 1y ago
Look, I'm telling you this from my perspective as someone who tried to do the exact thing you're saying. If those things stressed me out as an adult who knows about swimming, and crucially prevented me from signing up my kids for swimming lessons at the Y, then it is going to be even more true for people who are low income and not knowledgeable. These are real barriers. Acting like they're not is just putting our collective head in the sand and letting the problem perpetuate.
- kortilla 1y ago
  Your barrier sounds like some other anxiety issue unrelated to economic status. You know how important swimming lessons are and yet just gave up and skipped it entirely? Or are you actually privileged and had other swimming lesson options for your kid and just didn’t want to bother with the affordable system’s constraints? Lots of lower middle class/poor including me when I was growing up went to this without a problem. 25 cent public bus ride with mom was an adventure
  - KittenInABox 1y ago
    How long are you from being poor? Are you poor now? Did you raise a child while poor within the last 5 years? Public bus rides in my area are 9x your cost, and 4x that cost for elderly people.
    - kortilla 1y ago
      Public bus rides cost proportionately the same to min wage in California if that helps. The Y and the bus haven’t turned into upscale things if that’s the point you’re trying to make.