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I think OP was saying those three things were surprisingly dangerous. Kids have a natural fear of heights and falling, while the three on the list not so much.

closewith 1y ago
> Kids have a natural fear of heights and falling A learned fear, like the rest. There's no innate fear of falling.
- sampullman 1y ago
  Are you sure? From what I've read, and personally experienced there's some innate fear of heights. Similar to snakes and spiders, it's baked in.
  - noahjk 1y ago
    Babies will happily crawl off of the edge of whatever they're on. I'm not sure if it's because they aren't afraid, or if it's because they're so used to being carried that they don't grasp the concept of gravity, or both. My toddler recently went out on our roof to retrieve a football. I expected her to be a bit nervous, but she walked right up to the edge, no fear apparent at all. I had to desperately shove my instinct to yell for her down so I didn't scare her and distract her.
    - bobthepanda 1y ago
      IIRC very small kids are also developing depth perception, they aren't born with it.
    - yencabulator 1y ago
      Here's an experiment showing 27 of 36 crawling-age infants had no apparent fear of heights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_cliff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_cliff
  - closewith 1y ago
    100% sure. It's completely uncontroversial scientifically, so I'm not sure what you read, but it's also obvious to any parent.
    - sampullman 1y ago
      I can't find the article I was thinking of, it was a while ago. I'm pretty sure it was about the visual cliff experiment though: https://www.simplypsychology.org/visual-cliff-experiment.html https://www.simplypsychology.org/visual-cliff-experiment.htm... It looks like there have been a number of studies over the years, so not completely uncontroversial, unless there's something definitive you've read? The point isn't that babies never fall off stuff, just that at least a part of the fear is built in.
      - closewith 1y ago
        The link you shared doesn't relate to fear at all.
        sampullman 1y ago
        An aversion or wariness, but I think it's clear that a fear of heights is not entirely learned behavior.
        closewith 1y ago
        It's not at all clear. I think you're just reaching now to avoid admitting you were initially (and very obviously) mistaken.
        sampullman 1y ago
        There's research (and my own anecdotal evidence) supporting my initial claim, so I don't see how it's an obvious mistake. Do you have anything to back up your point?
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closewith 1y ago

> Kids have a natural fear of heights and falling A learned fear, like the rest. There's no innate fear of falling.

sampullman 1y ago
Are you sure? From what I've read, and personally experienced there's some innate fear of heights. Similar to snakes and spiders, it's baked in.
- noahjk 1y ago
  Babies will happily crawl off of the edge of whatever they're on. I'm not sure if it's because they aren't afraid, or if it's because they're so used to being carried that they don't grasp the concept of gravity, or both. My toddler recently went out on our roof to retrieve a football. I expected her to be a bit nervous, but she walked right up to the edge, no fear apparent at all. I had to desperately shove my instinct to yell for her down so I didn't scare her and distract her.
  - bobthepanda 1y ago
    IIRC very small kids are also developing depth perception, they aren't born with it.
  - yencabulator 1y ago
    Here's an experiment showing 27 of 36 crawling-age infants had no apparent fear of heights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_cliff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_cliff
- closewith 1y ago
  100% sure. It's completely uncontroversial scientifically, so I'm not sure what you read, but it's also obvious to any parent.
  - sampullman 1y ago
    I can't find the article I was thinking of, it was a while ago. I'm pretty sure it was about the visual cliff experiment though: https://www.simplypsychology.org/visual-cliff-experiment.html https://www.simplypsychology.org/visual-cliff-experiment.htm... It looks like there have been a number of studies over the years, so not completely uncontroversial, unless there's something definitive you've read? The point isn't that babies never fall off stuff, just that at least a part of the fear is built in.
    - closewith 1y ago
      The link you shared doesn't relate to fear at all.
      - sampullman 1y ago
        An aversion or wariness, but I think it's clear that a fear of heights is not entirely learned behavior.
        closewith 1y ago
        It's not at all clear. I think you're just reaching now to avoid admitting you were initially (and very obviously) mistaken.
        sampullman 1y ago
        There's research (and my own anecdotal evidence) supporting my initial claim, so I don't see how it's an obvious mistake. Do you have anything to back up your point?
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