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Nowadays laptops are majorly used as desktop hybrids. Getting near desktop performance when plugged but portability and lower consumption when unplugged is a p

Nowadays laptops are majorly used as desktop hybrids. Getting near desktop performance when plugged but portability and lower consumption when unplugged is a pretty good tradeoff.

hulitu 1y ago
> Nowadays laptops are majorly used as desktop hybrids. And they suck big time. And, to add insult to injury, there are also desktops which use laptop CPUs, with the same (lack of) performance.
- ksec 1y ago
  >And they suck big time. What sort of work load that sucks big time? Assuming the work load is even laptop focused in the first place.
  - varispeed 1y ago
    Opening Word, more than a few tabs in the browser, that kind of heavy load.
varispeed 1y ago
Friend of mine has laptop with Intel Ultra 9 185h. It is always plugged because when you don't plugin in, it is crawling (like even struggles to open Word). Fans are always spinning and it is loud. For doing any kind of work that requires focus it is an absolute nightmare. But she need a laptop to occasionally take it to Uni.
- makeitdouble 1y ago
  > Intel Ultra 9 185h The CPU in itself should be pretty good by modern standards: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+Ultra+9+185H&id=5815 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+Ultra+9+... > (like even struggles to open Word). Her issue is not the form factor. Is it the RAM ? did she activate all the marketing apps ? Is a bitcoin farmer running in the background ? I don't know, but it's worth looking into it. For comparison, I have at hand a Surface Pro 8 that should be 3x slower than hers on sheer CPU benchmarks, and I can throw any run of mill task at it (do the taxes with 3~4 word documents, Excel, dozens of tabs in firefox and a call session in the background) and it's fine. It will burn trough battery life within an two or three hours under that load, and yes the fans will be running, but I have no issue of having it crawl when unplugged.
  - chemmail 1y ago
    Could be the low power ecores being in use somehow? Meteor Lake has 3 types of core with 2 lpE cores in the SOC to try to turn off the Main P and E core tile. Lunar Lake removed the lpE cores and it does feel faster when surfing pages like reddit than my 12th gen and 5000hz laptops. I also tried the Ryzen AI and it is pretty close but 20% less battery life. They get a pretty crazy 15hr battery life now.
- sliken 1y ago
  Sounds like my macbook 16" with the Intel i9. Just about anything, full screen video call, backups, patching, etc it sounds like a hair dryer. I'm not surprised there's various docks, stands, etc that include supplemental cooling. I'm jealous of the m series macbooks, fast, quiet, and cool on wall or battery.

Nowadays laptops are majorly used as desktop hybrids. Getting near desktop performance when plugged but portability and lower consumption when unplugged is a pretty good tradeoff.

hulitu 1y ago

> Nowadays laptops are majorly used as desktop hybrids. And they suck big time. And, to add insult to injury, there are also desktops which use laptop CPUs, with the same (lack of) performance.

ksec 1y ago
>And they suck big time. What sort of work load that sucks big time? Assuming the work load is even laptop focused in the first place.
- varispeed 1y ago
  Opening Word, more than a few tabs in the browser, that kind of heavy load.

varispeed 1y ago

Friend of mine has laptop with Intel Ultra 9 185h. It is always plugged because when you don't plugin in, it is crawling (like even struggles to open Word). Fans are always spinning and it is loud. For doing any kind of work that requires focus it is an absolute nightmare. But she need a laptop to occasionally take it to Uni.

makeitdouble 1y ago
> Intel Ultra 9 185h The CPU in itself should be pretty good by modern standards: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+Ultra+9+185H&id=5815 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+Ultra+9+... > (like even struggles to open Word). Her issue is not the form factor. Is it the RAM ? did she activate all the marketing apps ? Is a bitcoin farmer running in the background ? I don't know, but it's worth looking into it. For comparison, I have at hand a Surface Pro 8 that should be 3x slower than hers on sheer CPU benchmarks, and I can throw any run of mill task at it (do the taxes with 3~4 word documents, Excel, dozens of tabs in firefox and a call session in the background) and it's fine. It will burn trough battery life within an two or three hours under that load, and yes the fans will be running, but I have no issue of having it crawl when unplugged.
- chemmail 1y ago
  Could be the low power ecores being in use somehow? Meteor Lake has 3 types of core with 2 lpE cores in the SOC to try to turn off the Main P and E core tile. Lunar Lake removed the lpE cores and it does feel faster when surfing pages like reddit than my 12th gen and 5000hz laptops. I also tried the Ryzen AI and it is pretty close but 20% less battery life. They get a pretty crazy 15hr battery life now.
sliken 1y ago
Sounds like my macbook 16" with the Intel i9. Just about anything, full screen video call, backups, patching, etc it sounds like a hair dryer. I'm not surprised there's various docks, stands, etc that include supplemental cooling. I'm jealous of the m series macbooks, fast, quiet, and cool on wall or battery.