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I've sometimes been confused by the term "inverted index". The example in this post feels like what I would just call an "index"... i.e documents indexed by the

I've sometimes been confused by the term "inverted index". The example in this post feels like what I would just call an "index"... i.e documents indexed by the words they contain. Feels about the same as the index in the back of a physical book. Is the distinction that an index on a multi-valued attribute is called an inverted index?

mrkeen 1y ago
No it's the same thing. With any book you have built-in mechanism to go to a page number see what words are there. An inverted index lets you do the inverse (words -> page numbers).
- SeanSullivan86 1y ago
  People (non-tech) don't tend to refer to "go to page 106" as using an index. The pages at the back of the book providing the word->page numbers lookup are commonly known as the book's "index"
  - grg0 1y ago
    "commonly" is an understatement; that's literally what a book index is by definition. The only thing "inverted" here is the context. The author even admits themselves that the word->doc mapping is an index: "If user wants to search by words - then words should be keys in our "database" (index)" It's a pointless debate of semantics. An inverted map is still a map.
    - teiferer 1y ago
      It's pointless in the sense that the word "inverse" in the term is pointless, a mild way of saying that it's confusing or even unnecessary to the point of being incorrect. The discussion about it is not pointless since it clears up confusion. It might not have been for you, but it's clearly for many others, so if you think that's pointless then allowing yourself to appreciate other perspectives could go a long way. An inverted map is still a map, but if you are typically thinking of the map A->B and then suddenly somebody talks about an inverted map, then it's understandable that people start to assume that this is now about B->A and get confused if it somehow actually isn't really.
    - valiant55 1y ago
      If the documents where themselves stored in a database they have and id and the contents. The clustering key (an index) would be on the id. It's inverted because the contents are deconstructed into tokens with a list of ids that contain that token. Now the contents (tokens) server as the indexed value.
atombender 1y ago
Inverted indexes are what databases call indexes. It's used in the IR field to differentiate from forward indexes, which are less common, so you're right that we could just say "index's. But when we talk about inverted indexes, they are almost always term -> posting list, and most index data structures lay these out so that posting lists are sorted and compressed together. Traditional database indexes like B-trees are optimized for rapid insertion and deletion, while inverted indexes tend to be optimized for batch processing, because you typically deconstruct text into words for a large batch and then lazily integrate this batch into the main index. Part of this is about scale; a row in a database typically has a single column or maybe 2-3 columns in a composite index; but a document text may tokenize into thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of words. At this scale, the fine-grained nature of words mean B-trees aren't as a good a fit. Another part of it is that inverted indexes aren't for point queries, which is what B-trees are optimized for; you typically search for many words at a time in order to rank your search results by some function like cosine similarity. You rarely want a single posting; you want the union or intersection of many posting sorted by score.
- modulovalue 1y ago
  NIT: That's not quite correct if your first statement is meant to imply an equality rather than a subset relation. The idea of an index is more general, as an index can be built for many different domains. For example, B-trees can index monoidal data and inverted indexes are just an instance of such a monoid that a B-tree can efficiently index. Furthermore, metric spaces (e.g., levenshtein distance) can also be efficiently indexed using other trees: metric trees. So calling inverted indexes just indexes would be really confusing since string data is not the only kind of data that a database might want to support having efficient indexes for.
  - atombender 1y ago
    My point is that all indexes are "inverted" in the sense that they map some searchable value to occurrences of said value. That is true even if method of comparison is not strict equality.
___tom___ 1y ago
This drove me up the wall, until I researched it. A document can be viewed as an object with a set of pointers to the words it contains. The inverse of that, was a word object, with a list of pointers to the documents it is found it. This was referred to an an inverted DOCUMENT index. This is what people would normally just call an index. At some point, people dropped the "DOCUMENT" part, and started just calling it an "inverted index". This makes no sense, grammatically, as it's the document that is inverted, not the index, but it is what it is. So, an inverted index is just an index.
- nzeid 1y ago
  Love this take.
- teiferer 1y ago
  Wow, thanks for the explanation! That was driving me nuts too, as I was waiting for the point where they would invert the thing they built and what that would look like, though that point never came. But now I don't need to put in the time that you did! In summary, they are not "inverted index" in the sense of "the inversion of what you'd normally think of as an index" but instead in the sense of "a map which provides the inversion of the map from documents to words in them, in other words, an index".

mrkeen 1y ago

No it's the same thing. With any book you have built-in mechanism to go to a page number see what words are there. An inverted index lets you do the inverse (words -> page numbers).

SeanSullivan86 1y ago
People (non-tech) don't tend to refer to "go to page 106" as using an index. The pages at the back of the book providing the word->page numbers lookup are commonly known as the book's "index"
- grg0 1y ago
  "commonly" is an understatement; that's literally what a book index is by definition. The only thing "inverted" here is the context. The author even admits themselves that the word->doc mapping is an index: "If user wants to search by words - then words should be keys in our "database" (index)" It's a pointless debate of semantics. An inverted map is still a map.
  - teiferer 1y ago
    It's pointless in the sense that the word "inverse" in the term is pointless, a mild way of saying that it's confusing or even unnecessary to the point of being incorrect. The discussion about it is not pointless since it clears up confusion. It might not have been for you, but it's clearly for many others, so if you think that's pointless then allowing yourself to appreciate other perspectives could go a long way. An inverted map is still a map, but if you are typically thinking of the map A->B and then suddenly somebody talks about an inverted map, then it's understandable that people start to assume that this is now about B->A and get confused if it somehow actually isn't really.
  - valiant55 1y ago
    If the documents where themselves stored in a database they have and id and the contents. The clustering key (an index) would be on the id. It's inverted because the contents are deconstructed into tokens with a list of ids that contain that token. Now the contents (tokens) server as the indexed value.

atombender 1y ago

Inverted indexes are what databases call indexes. It's used in the IR field to differentiate from forward indexes, which are less common, so you're right that we could just say "index's. But when we talk about inverted indexes, they are almost always term -> posting list, and most index data structures lay these out so that posting lists are sorted and compressed together. Traditional database indexes like B-trees are optimized for rapid insertion and deletion, while inverted indexes tend to be optimized for batch processing, because you typically deconstruct text into words for a large batch and then lazily integrate this batch into the main index. Part of this is about scale; a row in a database typically has a single column or maybe 2-3 columns in a composite index; but a document text may tokenize into thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of words. At this scale, the fine-grained nature of words mean B-trees aren't as a good a fit. Another part of it is that inverted indexes aren't for point queries, which is what B-trees are optimized for; you typically search for many words at a time in order to rank your search results by some function like cosine similarity. You rarely want a single posting; you want the union or intersection of many posting sorted by score.

modulovalue 1y ago
NIT: That's not quite correct if your first statement is meant to imply an equality rather than a subset relation. The idea of an index is more general, as an index can be built for many different domains. For example, B-trees can index monoidal data and inverted indexes are just an instance of such a monoid that a B-tree can efficiently index. Furthermore, metric spaces (e.g., levenshtein distance) can also be efficiently indexed using other trees: metric trees. So calling inverted indexes just indexes would be really confusing since string data is not the only kind of data that a database might want to support having efficient indexes for.
- atombender 1y ago
  My point is that all indexes are "inverted" in the sense that they map some searchable value to occurrences of said value. That is true even if method of comparison is not strict equality.

___tom___ 1y ago

This drove me up the wall, until I researched it. A document can be viewed as an object with a set of pointers to the words it contains. The inverse of that, was a word object, with a list of pointers to the documents it is found it. This was referred to an an inverted DOCUMENT index. This is what people would normally just call an index. At some point, people dropped the "DOCUMENT" part, and started just calling it an "inverted index". This makes no sense, grammatically, as it's the document that is inverted, not the index, but it is what it is. So, an inverted index is just an index.

nzeid 1y ago
Love this take.
teiferer 1y ago
Wow, thanks for the explanation! That was driving me nuts too, as I was waiting for the point where they would invert the thing they built and what that would look like, though that point never came. But now I don't need to put in the time that you did! In summary, they are not "inverted index" in the sense of "the inversion of what you'd normally think of as an index" but instead in the sense of "a map which provides the inversion of the map from documents to words in them, in other words, an index".