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> They know what they doing exactly. They're already using the "online safety act" to silence people online. They're super scared because a great many people

> They know what they doing exactly. They're already using the "online safety act" to silence people online. They're super scared because a great many people have had enough. Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK. And they want to silence anyone who wants to talk about criminality on the ultra rise. The UK is on a very dark path. It's the country in the world with the most millionaires fleeing the country: mainstream media brainwash the people saying it's supposedly for tax reasons these millionaires are leaving. But I live in a country where many millionaires and families have family offices and trusts and the tune is very different. People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate. And not only is the government doing nothing about it, they're going after those denouncing the crimes. People are now stabbed to death for their watch in London. A few days ago: https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/three-arrested-man-stabbed-death-rolex/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/three-arrested-man-stabbed-death... Leftists refuse to see it. They'll rationalize that that man was a capitalist oppressor for wearing a Rolex and that he provoked these people by wearing a $10 K watch. That he's the reason these killers were broke and forced to act evil. That they shouldn't get much jail time because now they'll surely be nice members of a high-trust society. These people are precisely those who brought the Online Safety Act. But it's Orwellian and Orwellian talk: for what the Online Safety Act is really used for is to silence talk about crimes. I'm in the EU: in a few years leftists shall probably have put a system in place where police shall come and knock on my door for my posts on HN.

badgersnake 1y ago
This isn’t the Daily Mail comments section.
louthy 1y ago
This is far right fear-mongering rhetoric. It’s the standard hatred of ethnic minorities whipped up by bigots. The UK is not on a “dark path”, that’s absolute nonsense. Nor do people live in fear. I assume you don’t actually live in the UK. Because none of your description is the UK I live in. > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” Crime is down and has been going down for 10 years. For “religious extremism” I’ll just read “I don’t like brown people”, because extremism is only really growing due to white supremacy groups. > “they're going after those denouncing the crimes.” No, they are not, they are going after those fomenting violence (literal riots). In one case leading to white supremacists trying to burn down a hotel with refugees in it. Crime happens. It doesn’t mean one crime is a symptom of a wider problem. And breaking news: crime is committed by white people too. RE: the Rolex watch crime — I walk through East London with a Patek Philippe on my arm and have zero concerns, I’m not scared, nor do I live in fear. Nobody I know in the UK is scared or living in fear — that’s just agenda driven rhetoric. Maybe get off twitter and/or the far-right manosphere and try changing your news sources for something more balanced.
- pixxel 1y ago
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- mft_ 1y ago
  > RE: the Rolex watch crime — I walk through East London with a Patek Philippe on my arm and have zero concerns, I’m not scared, nor do I live in fear. Which route do you take? Just asking for, er, a friend…
  - louthy 1y ago
    :D Dalston high-street mostly. It’s insured anyway, have it: I’d never argue/fight with a mugger! Which seems to be what happened to Rolex guy: no watch is worth fighting for, just hand it over.
- pigeonhole123 1y ago
  Violent crime is way up https://www.statista.com/statistics/288256/violent-crimes-in-england-and-wales/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/288256/violent-crimes-in...
  - louthy 1y ago
    Not sure what statista.com is, but it’s not the Office for National Statistics, here’s violent crime: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2024#violence-with-and-without-injury https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand... There’s a note: “Trends in police recorded violence with and without injury should be interpreted with caution, as improvements to recording practices have had a substantial impact on the recording of violent crime over the last 10 years. For further information, see Section 19: Data sources and quality” So, if your stats are a mirror of the ONS then they’re not telling a complete story. The ONS states: “Crime against individuals and households has generally decreased over the last 10 years with some notable exceptions, such as sexual assault” But it also states: “Trends in police recorded sexual offences should be interpreted with caution as improvements in recording practices and increased reporting by victims have contributed to increases in recent years. For further information, see Section 19: Data sources and quality.” There’s no way the OP’s original statement holds up: “Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate” I notice he’s now edited to “criminality and rapes” — he has an agenda. It’s utterly tiresome hearing people outside the UK trying to tell us how scared we are, when it’s complete bullshit.
vidarh 1y ago
> Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK This is far-right propaganda. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/gbr/united-kingdom/crime-rate-statistics https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/gbr/uni...
- louthy 1y ago
  Before anyone comments that the numbers are from 2020. I think the important point is the relative position of the UK to other countries (scroll down to the rankings table) Crime is “generally down” in the past 10 years according to the ONS, so I wouldn’t expect the ranking to have changed much (in the subsequent 5 years).
- gruez 1y ago
  Your source is only for all crime statistics. If you look at the detailed breakdown rape has increased[1]. More worrying is the fact that charge rates have fallen[2], which makes the claim that crime was "down" doubtful. [1] https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_EPC369.png https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_EPC... [2] https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_BRC370.png https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_BRC...
  - louthy 1y ago
    Just to be clear, the OP (@TacticalCoder) originally wrote this: > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” He then edited the comment once I called him out on its veiled racism and once he'd seen the thread following from that (the discussion around ONS statistics where I highlight that crime is generally down, just not sexual offences). He then changed his comment to: > "They're super scared because a great many people have had enough. Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK" I realise that @vidarh replied to the updated text. But there are a couple of points: 1. If you go to the Office for National Statistics Crime in England and Wales report [1], you'll see the following comment: "Trends in police recorded sexual offences should be interpreted with caution as improvements in recording practices and increased reporting by victims have contributed to increases in recent years. For further information, see Section 19: Data sources and quality." So, an increase in the numbers doesn't necessarily mean actual an increase. It would also explain why the percentage of solved (sexual) crimes is decreasing. 2. Even if there was an actual increase, that doesn't change the fact that crime is down overall (which counters the original statement by @TacticalCoder) 3. It also doesn't invalidate @vidarh's link which shows crime in the UK is low compared to other nations. So, if some areas have increased, then the overall picture is still relatively good for the UK. It certainly doesn't fit what @TacticalCoder originally wrote: "criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate". Editing the comment from the one that was called-out to a whole new statement, that maps onto the one crime stat that is actually going in the wrong direction (but might not be due to changes in how its measured), is extremely disingenuous. [1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2024#sexual-offences https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand...
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badgersnake 1y ago

This isn’t the Daily Mail comments section.

louthy 1y ago

This is far right fear-mongering rhetoric. It’s the standard hatred of ethnic minorities whipped up by bigots. The UK is not on a “dark path”, that’s absolute nonsense. Nor do people live in fear. I assume you don’t actually live in the UK. Because none of your description is the UK I live in. > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” Crime is down and has been going down for 10 years. For “religious extremism” I’ll just read “I don’t like brown people”, because extremism is only really growing due to white supremacy groups. > “they're going after those denouncing the crimes.” No, they are not, they are going after those fomenting violence (literal riots). In one case leading to white supremacists trying to burn down a hotel with refugees in it. Crime happens. It doesn’t mean one crime is a symptom of a wider problem. And breaking news: crime is committed by white people too. RE: the Rolex watch crime — I walk through East London with a Patek Philippe on my arm and have zero concerns, I’m not scared, nor do I live in fear. Nobody I know in the UK is scared or living in fear — that’s just agenda driven rhetoric. Maybe get off twitter and/or the far-right manosphere and try changing your news sources for something more balanced.

pixxel 1y ago
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mft_ 1y ago
> RE: the Rolex watch crime — I walk through East London with a Patek Philippe on my arm and have zero concerns, I’m not scared, nor do I live in fear. Which route do you take? Just asking for, er, a friend…
- louthy 1y ago
  :D Dalston high-street mostly. It’s insured anyway, have it: I’d never argue/fight with a mugger! Which seems to be what happened to Rolex guy: no watch is worth fighting for, just hand it over.
pigeonhole123 1y ago
Violent crime is way up https://www.statista.com/statistics/288256/violent-crimes-in-england-and-wales/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/288256/violent-crimes-in...
- louthy 1y ago
  Not sure what statista.com is, but it’s not the Office for National Statistics, here’s violent crime: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2024#violence-with-and-without-injury https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand... There’s a note: “Trends in police recorded violence with and without injury should be interpreted with caution, as improvements to recording practices have had a substantial impact on the recording of violent crime over the last 10 years. For further information, see Section 19: Data sources and quality” So, if your stats are a mirror of the ONS then they’re not telling a complete story. The ONS states: “Crime against individuals and households has generally decreased over the last 10 years with some notable exceptions, such as sexual assault” But it also states: “Trends in police recorded sexual offences should be interpreted with caution as improvements in recording practices and increased reporting by victims have contributed to increases in recent years. For further information, see Section 19: Data sources and quality.” There’s no way the OP’s original statement holds up: “Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate” I notice he’s now edited to “criminality and rapes” — he has an agenda. It’s utterly tiresome hearing people outside the UK trying to tell us how scared we are, when it’s complete bullshit.

vidarh 1y ago

> Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK This is far-right propaganda. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/gbr/united-kingdom/crime-rate-statistics https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/gbr/uni...

louthy 1y ago
Before anyone comments that the numbers are from 2020. I think the important point is the relative position of the UK to other countries (scroll down to the rankings table) Crime is “generally down” in the past 10 years according to the ONS, so I wouldn’t expect the ranking to have changed much (in the subsequent 5 years).
gruez 1y ago
Your source is only for all crime statistics. If you look at the detailed breakdown rape has increased[1]. More worrying is the fact that charge rates have fallen[2], which makes the claim that crime was "down" doubtful. [1] https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_EPC369.png https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_EPC... [2] https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_BRC370.png https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20250726_BRC...
- louthy 1y ago
  Just to be clear, the OP (@TacticalCoder) originally wrote this: > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” He then edited the comment once I called him out on its veiled racism and once he'd seen the thread following from that (the discussion around ONS statistics where I highlight that crime is generally down, just not sexual offences). He then changed his comment to: > "They're super scared because a great many people have had enough. Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK" I realise that @vidarh replied to the updated text. But there are a couple of points: 1. If you go to the Office for National Statistics Crime in England and Wales report [1], you'll see the following comment: "Trends in police recorded sexual offences should be interpreted with caution as improvements in recording practices and increased reporting by victims have contributed to increases in recent years. For further information, see Section 19: Data sources and quality." So, an increase in the numbers doesn't necessarily mean actual an increase. It would also explain why the percentage of solved (sexual) crimes is decreasing. 2. Even if there was an actual increase, that doesn't change the fact that crime is down overall (which counters the original statement by @TacticalCoder) 3. It also doesn't invalidate @vidarh's link which shows crime in the UK is low compared to other nations. So, if some areas have increased, then the overall picture is still relatively good for the UK. It certainly doesn't fit what @TacticalCoder originally wrote: "criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate". Editing the comment from the one that was called-out to a whole new statement, that maps onto the one crime stat that is actually going in the wrong direction (but might not be due to changes in how its measured), is extremely disingenuous. [1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2024#sexual-offences https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand...

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