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Bringing a decade old bicycle navigator back to life with open source software
- thread_id 1y agoThanks!!!! This is a great article. There are many tool references to research. "Obsolescence is a choice. Reverse engineering is resistance."
- ddtaylor 1y agoNot sure if I missed it, but are those updates going over HTTP without SSL as well?
- MobiusHorizons 1y agoThe article says they used mitmproxy which installs a system certificate
- ddtaylor 1y agoI think the payload after that though is that MITM proxy delivering an HTTP link to an EXE that anyone can payload with MITM, same attack surface.
- jxntb73 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_CE_6.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_CE_6.0 Huh, intresting.
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- mnoronha 1y agobot?!?
- TechDebtDevin 1y agoYes lmfao
- firebot 1y agoOsmand(fDroid) + brouter Best offline navigation there is. You can even customize your navigation profiles.
- morsch 1y agoToo bad that using brouter with osmand is so complicated.
- firebot 1y agoNot really? You just select brouter in osmand. Make sure you select the correct profile for brouter. Server mode engages and it just works. Sure, you also need to download the tiles for brouter.
- morsch 1y agoWell, I set it up, but I had to refer to the manual and it still took me like five to ten minutes. https://osmand.net/de/docs/user/navigation/routing/brouter/ https://osmand.net/de/docs/user/navigation/routing/brouter/ Novice users wouldn't stand a chance; though admittedly they'd be totally lost with osmand anyway. It is amazingly fast, gotta be said.
- u8080 1y agoOrganic Maps is also very solid project
- MayeulC 1y agoIt is, but brouter's navigation is really much better. Just yesterday, I was in a relatively unfamiliar, small (european) city which I needed to cross. Organic Maps was sending me trough small streets I would have shared with cars. I fired up OSMAnd + Brouter to compare, and ended up picking the latter: it sent me trough bike/bus-only roads, then a park, to reach a dedicated bike lane along the river, far from any traffic. The trip was a pleasure, though maybe a few percent longer.
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- jakedata 1y agoI have a waterproof Garmin Nuvi GPS that will directly accept OpenStreetMap data on micro-SD card. It is in bicycle mode and running on a DC-DC converter from my e-bike pack. I am quite satisfied with it despite being 20 years old. The external storage and well defined format have saved it from becoming e-waste.
- microtonal 1y agoGarmin is really good when it comes to open maps. I can still put new OpenStreetMap maps on an old Garmin 62s like it's 2010. I recently replaced my Apple Watch by a Garmin Fenix 7 Pro and even though it's not really advertised, it just accepts good old map .img files. I put on the Dutch cycle network overlay without any issues, just like I did with my Garmin GPSr units.
- internet2000 1y ago$10 for an accessible Windows CE PDA is a pretty good deal. If I were OP, I'd fire up an appropriately old version of Visual Studio and vibecode some patches to the open source app he found.
- fsckboy 1y ago>There is no other input than the touch screen, so I can shoot and nothing more, but hey, it runs DOOM! hook Doom up to the internal nav, then you can ride your bike around and shoot. "I know you love riding your bike, and I know you love playing Doom, so I put your bike into Doom!"
- roywashere 1y agoRaymii is one of my heroes! :-) great and accessible hacking on this device
- lutusp 1y agoIt's an example of modern tech capitalism: you buy a nifty consumer product, after which you don't own it, it owns you. The few exceptions to this rule are run by conscientious developers who make sure their products don't rely on their maker for continued support. But by this generous act, such companies fall behind their predatory competitors. It's late-stage capitalism at work. You buy some food, but you don't eat it, it eats you.
- SoftTalker 1y agoThe joke's on them, I just try to avoid "nifty consumer products" now. After getting burned a number of times, I have developed a very strong "no gadgets" rule. And if it connects to the internet or needs regular "updates" to remain usable that is an additional major strike against it.
- aeblyve 1y agoI don't miss the world of a million purpose-built gizmos like this. Smartphones are a very good thing, so long as android is still mostly free. Fun exercise nonetheless
- CommenterPerson 1y agoSorry disagree here. I use a Garmin for driving. Don't wish to contribute to the surveillance economy. I love what the OP has done and look forward to more such.
- bayindirh 1y agoWhile smartphones are good all around devices, and Apple showed that a smartphone with a good camera, DAC, screen and sensor suite can exist, purpose built devices still beat them. They have longer battery life, more predictable performance, and a wider range of operation parameters. I’ll always prefer my specialized equipment for serious music listening, my ebook reader for longer reading and honestly pen and paper for serious note taking. They perform better and I get more performance with less effort.
- aeblyve 1y agoI had a nice ebook reader at one point, but now I prefer Zotero on Linux and Android for reading.
- bayindirh 1y agoWhile I use Zotero for research, nothing beats an e-ink display for long reading (for me, at least). I don’t like to overdrive and burn an OLED screen under sunlight and strain my eyes at the same time.
- raudette 1y agoMounting a modern phone to a bicycle will damage the cameras - they can’t handle the vibration - see https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102175 https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102175 I have an iPhone that I believe was damaged in this way. So you’d probably want a purpose built bike computer, an older phone that you don’t care about the camera, or perhaps there are fancy vibration dampening mounts that could work.
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- dwayne_dibley 1y ago“Why are there no laws requiring device manufacturers to open source all software and hardware for consumer devices no longer sold?” See stop killing games.
- wildzzz 1y agoWhy is there so much added pixelation in photos where part of the bezel is shown? Is the author trying to hide fingerprints?
- grishka 1y agoOr reflections. It is very noticeable and very weird.
- culebron21 1y agoAlso noticed this.
- neumann 1y agoOh Snap - I have this one! I bought unopened in box in a salebin for $20 after it went obselete. The maps are still great, but the battery only lasts 2-3 hours and I mostly wanted it for all day back-country/gravel exploration.
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