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Here's a $2M 4-3 2279sqft very-nice-looking home in Santa Barbara: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5436-Agana-Dr-Santa-Barbara-CA-93111/15909690_zpid/ https

Here's a $2M 4-3 2279sqft very-nice-looking home in Santa Barbara: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5436-Agana-Dr-Santa-Barbara-CA-93111/15909690_zpid/ https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5436-Agana-Dr-Santa-Barba...

AceJohnny2 1y ago
offtopic, but I love comparing realtor glamour shots HDR'd out the wazoo with StreetView https://maps.app.goo.gl/2aEXsdH9hU3o4SZw5 https://maps.app.goo.gl/2aEXsdH9hU3o4SZw5 (winter, March 2012)
- ikari_pl 1y ago
  Still not bad
- wiz21c 1y ago
  so much space lost to cars...
- gertlex 1y ago
  Aside to the offtopic: I'm surprised the google street view footage is 13 years old.
  - throw0101d 1y ago
    It launched in 2007, so approaching twenty years: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View
    - gertlex 1y ago
      I meant and left out a key word; "most recent". Whoops! I'm used to seeing yearly or every-other-year streetview updates for locations I look at regularly. That said, might be mixing up my broader impression with the interval of satellite photo updates in the google earth history. (but my bay area neighborhood does indeed have streetview history updating every year or so; obviously this is probably on the high end given proximity to tech companies...)
- fsckboy 1y ago
  that's not a glamour shot, that's just a sunny day. the dirty little secret of the southern california coast is it is cloudy more than half the time. west la, downright depressing. they call it "the marine layer", i call it cloudy as fuck.
  - Snowfield9571 1y ago
    Ya that’s completely false lol. Lots of reasons to criticize LA, being cloudy isn’t one of them https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/clilcd.pl?ca23174 https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/clilcd.pl?ca23174
caminante 1y ago
You're making his point. 4br in only 2k sqft? For 2M? Please...
- Thorrez 1y ago
  I'm not saying the prices are reasonable. I'm saying $2.2M for a "shithole 1300sqft" doesn't make sense when you can pay $2M for a nice 2279sqft.
  - caminante 1y ago
    Sorry, but this reads like you contradicting yourself. ~"Not saying X, but... X."
    - Thorrez 1y ago
      My first sentence is saying "I'm not saying the prices are reasonable." How does my second sentence say the prices are reasonable? My second sentence is saying chasebank's friend did something that doesn't make sense. It's not saying the housing market in Santa Barbara is reasonable.
      - caminante 1y ago
        >for a nice 2279sqft. Are you intentionally ignoring you said "nice" for what most would consider to be a source of ridicule (4BR SFH in 2k sqft). BTW, you haven't made an argument about real estate differences. The smaller home might be a better deal. And you're using a turn of phrase that is the opposite of your apparent intent.
        Thorrez 1y ago
        >most would consider to be a source of ridicule (4BR SFH in 2k sqft) I don't think most people would consider it a source of ridicule. (BTW, you omitted 279sqft.) In all the places I see discussing it online, I see tons of people saying 2279 sqft is a normal or even large size for 4BR, and only 1 person saying it's small[1-6]. The average bedroom size in the US is 132 sqft. The average master bedroom size is 224 sqft[7]. Even if we go with 224, with 4 of those, that's 896 sqft used by bedrooms, and 2279-896 = 1383sqft for non-bedroom stuff. I don't see why that's so bad. >BTW, you haven't made an argument about real estate differences. The smaller home might be a better deal. chasebank described it has a "shithole". So I assumed the real estate was bad. If chasebank was describing a house on a super valuable piece of land, chasebank should have mentioned that. It would be an important piece of information that would completely undermine chasebank's point. It would be misleading for chasebank to leave out that information, so I assumed chasebank didn't do that. Anyway, the real estate of the one I linked to seemed fine to me. [1] https://www.familyhomeplans.com/4-bed-3-bath-house-plans-home https://www.familyhomeplans.com/4-bed-3-bath-house-plans-hom... [2] https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-bedroom-house https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-b... [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/HousingUK/comments/vq293z/after_general_opinion_is_1400_sqft_130_m2_decent/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HousingUK/comments/vq293z/after_gen... [4] https://www.quora.com/How-many-square-feet-is-a-4-bedroom-house https://www.quora.com/How-many-square-feet-is-a-4-bedroom-ho... [5] https://houseplanfloorplan.quora.com/How-big-is-a-typical-4-bedroom-house https://houseplanfloorplan.quora.com/How-big-is-a-typical-4-... [6] https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-bedroom-house https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-b... [7] https://www.crddesignbuild.com/blog/average-bedroom-size/ https://www.crddesignbuild.com/blog/average-bedroom-size/

AceJohnny2 1y ago

offtopic, but I love comparing realtor glamour shots HDR'd out the wazoo with StreetView https://maps.app.goo.gl/2aEXsdH9hU3o4SZw5 https://maps.app.goo.gl/2aEXsdH9hU3o4SZw5 (winter, March 2012)

ikari_pl 1y ago
Still not bad
wiz21c 1y ago
so much space lost to cars...
gertlex 1y ago
Aside to the offtopic: I'm surprised the google street view footage is 13 years old.
- throw0101d 1y ago
  It launched in 2007, so approaching twenty years: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View
  - gertlex 1y ago
    I meant and left out a key word; "most recent". Whoops! I'm used to seeing yearly or every-other-year streetview updates for locations I look at regularly. That said, might be mixing up my broader impression with the interval of satellite photo updates in the google earth history. (but my bay area neighborhood does indeed have streetview history updating every year or so; obviously this is probably on the high end given proximity to tech companies...)
fsckboy 1y ago
that's not a glamour shot, that's just a sunny day. the dirty little secret of the southern california coast is it is cloudy more than half the time. west la, downright depressing. they call it "the marine layer", i call it cloudy as fuck.
- Snowfield9571 1y ago
  Ya that’s completely false lol. Lots of reasons to criticize LA, being cloudy isn’t one of them https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/clilcd.pl?ca23174 https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/clilcd.pl?ca23174

caminante 1y ago

You're making his point. 4br in only 2k sqft? For 2M? Please...

Thorrez 1y ago
I'm not saying the prices are reasonable. I'm saying $2.2M for a "shithole 1300sqft" doesn't make sense when you can pay $2M for a nice 2279sqft.
- caminante 1y ago
  Sorry, but this reads like you contradicting yourself. ~"Not saying X, but... X."
  - Thorrez 1y ago
    My first sentence is saying "I'm not saying the prices are reasonable." How does my second sentence say the prices are reasonable? My second sentence is saying chasebank's friend did something that doesn't make sense. It's not saying the housing market in Santa Barbara is reasonable.
    - caminante 1y ago
      >for a nice 2279sqft. Are you intentionally ignoring you said "nice" for what most would consider to be a source of ridicule (4BR SFH in 2k sqft). BTW, you haven't made an argument about real estate differences. The smaller home might be a better deal. And you're using a turn of phrase that is the opposite of your apparent intent.
      - Thorrez 1y ago
        >most would consider to be a source of ridicule (4BR SFH in 2k sqft) I don't think most people would consider it a source of ridicule. (BTW, you omitted 279sqft.) In all the places I see discussing it online, I see tons of people saying 2279 sqft is a normal or even large size for 4BR, and only 1 person saying it's small[1-6]. The average bedroom size in the US is 132 sqft. The average master bedroom size is 224 sqft[7]. Even if we go with 224, with 4 of those, that's 896 sqft used by bedrooms, and 2279-896 = 1383sqft for non-bedroom stuff. I don't see why that's so bad. >BTW, you haven't made an argument about real estate differences. The smaller home might be a better deal. chasebank described it has a "shithole". So I assumed the real estate was bad. If chasebank was describing a house on a super valuable piece of land, chasebank should have mentioned that. It would be an important piece of information that would completely undermine chasebank's point. It would be misleading for chasebank to leave out that information, so I assumed chasebank didn't do that. Anyway, the real estate of the one I linked to seemed fine to me. [1] https://www.familyhomeplans.com/4-bed-3-bath-house-plans-home https://www.familyhomeplans.com/4-bed-3-bath-house-plans-hom... [2] https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-bedroom-house https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-b... [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/HousingUK/comments/vq293z/after_general_opinion_is_1400_sqft_130_m2_decent/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HousingUK/comments/vq293z/after_gen... [4] https://www.quora.com/How-many-square-feet-is-a-4-bedroom-house https://www.quora.com/How-many-square-feet-is-a-4-bedroom-ho... [5] https://houseplanfloorplan.quora.com/How-big-is-a-typical-4-bedroom-house https://houseplanfloorplan.quora.com/How-big-is-a-typical-4-... [6] https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-bedroom-house https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-b... [7] https://www.crddesignbuild.com/blog/average-bedroom-size/ https://www.crddesignbuild.com/blog/average-bedroom-size/