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Or you could spend half that in the heart of SF and have a nice place in a decent neighborhood: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1265-Union-St-San-Francisco-C

Or you could spend half that in the heart of SF and have a nice place in a decent neighborhood: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1265-Union-St-San-Francisco-CA-94109/2101508161_zpid/ https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1265-Union-St-San-Francis... It's not that it's cheap here, not by any measure, but it's not nearly so dire as y'all want to claim.

nimos 1y ago
That is a tenancy in common 2 bedroom apartment not a house. Shared ownership of a 100+ year old building with "leased" parking 2 blocks away. Not exactly the home ownership dream.
- stouset 1y ago
  I own one unit in a 2-unit condo built in the 1910s in SF. It’s pretty fucking dreamy if you ask me.
  - socalgal2 1y ago
    different strokes for different folks. I can't fucking stand hearing every breath of every neighbor in a 100yr old SF house and having to tiptoe at all times so as not to upset the other tenents
    - stouset 1y ago
      I am almost never aware of my upstairs neighbors, through two pairs of them, including a dog and a baby.
- kstrauser 1y ago
  Then click around to find something more your liking. There are a lot of places for sale for under $3M that aren’t exactly a tent under a bridge.
- bluedevilzn 1y ago
  That too for $1.5 million. 99% of Americans would picture a mansion when they think of a $1.5 million home.
  - zeroonetwothree 1y ago
    Hey now, around 15% of the population live in CA or NY so I think your estimate is too high
- bravesoul2 1y ago
  Luckily you can live in a city and then later sell that appartment and buy another house in the sticks that is the dream.
johann8384 1y ago
With $3MM you could just stop working and live in many other nice enough places without ever having to work again.
- Retric 1y ago
  3% of 3 million is 90k which sounds better than it actually is as you need to pay for health insurance. Plenty of people live in any city with less than that, but it is below the average income in many nice counties in the US.
  - justinclift 1y ago
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    - Retric 1y ago
      You pay for health insurance in every single county, either directly or through higher taxes.
      - justinclift 1y ago
        Yep. And it's about 2% of my tax, which isn't noticable. Unlike getting anything more serious than a cold in an idiotic, backward country without public health care.
        Retric 1y ago
        US is an outlier by spending 17% of GDP on healthcare requiring high insurance costs by 9-12% is common in most developed countries requiring not 2% of your taxes by ~10% of your income. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_spending_as_percent_of_gross_domestic_product_(GDP)_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_spending_as_percent_of_... Even in China you’re looking at 6% of income. Of course taxes aren’t evenly distributed, but 90k means enough income to be worth taxing without the political power to offload the tax burden on others.

nimos 1y ago

That is a tenancy in common 2 bedroom apartment not a house. Shared ownership of a 100+ year old building with "leased" parking 2 blocks away. Not exactly the home ownership dream.

stouset 1y ago
I own one unit in a 2-unit condo built in the 1910s in SF. It’s pretty fucking dreamy if you ask me.
- socalgal2 1y ago
  different strokes for different folks. I can't fucking stand hearing every breath of every neighbor in a 100yr old SF house and having to tiptoe at all times so as not to upset the other tenents
  - stouset 1y ago
    I am almost never aware of my upstairs neighbors, through two pairs of them, including a dog and a baby.
kstrauser 1y ago
Then click around to find something more your liking. There are a lot of places for sale for under $3M that aren’t exactly a tent under a bridge.
bluedevilzn 1y ago
That too for $1.5 million. 99% of Americans would picture a mansion when they think of a $1.5 million home.
- zeroonetwothree 1y ago
  Hey now, around 15% of the population live in CA or NY so I think your estimate is too high
bravesoul2 1y ago
Luckily you can live in a city and then later sell that appartment and buy another house in the sticks that is the dream.

johann8384 1y ago

With $3MM you could just stop working and live in many other nice enough places without ever having to work again.

Retric 1y ago
3% of 3 million is 90k which sounds better than it actually is as you need to pay for health insurance. Plenty of people live in any city with less than that, but it is below the average income in many nice counties in the US.
- justinclift 1y ago
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  - Retric 1y ago
    You pay for health insurance in every single county, either directly or through higher taxes.
    - justinclift 1y ago
      Yep. And it's about 2% of my tax, which isn't noticable. Unlike getting anything more serious than a cold in an idiotic, backward country without public health care.
      - Retric 1y ago
        US is an outlier by spending 17% of GDP on healthcare requiring high insurance costs by 9-12% is common in most developed countries requiring not 2% of your taxes by ~10% of your income. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_spending_as_percent_of_gross_domestic_product_(GDP)_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_spending_as_percent_of_... Even in China you’re looking at 6% of income. Of course taxes aren’t evenly distributed, but 90k means enough income to be worth taxing without the political power to offload the tax burden on others.