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Gmail takes 3s to load. And HN is a website, not an app.
by dzhiurgis 1y ago
Gmail takes 3s to load. And HN is a website, not an app.
- paulryanrogers 1y ago> Gmail takes 3s to load On a 2008 device, in 2025? On a mobile connection?
- xyzsparetimexyz 1y agoHow is HN not an app? All the content is user generated. Everything is interactive. What's the difference?
- dzhiurgis 1y agoMost of the time spent is content consumption (viewing html documents), rather interaction (which is only 2 simple actions).
- xyzsparetimexyz 1y agoI suppose that's valid. Feels fairly arbitrary though
- da_chicken 1y agoNavigating to a thread isn't much different than navigating to a store. Upvoting isn't much different than adding to the cart. Payment isn't much different than adding a comment. I think the interaction levels are incredibly similar. The primary difference is the amount of images displayed, but that really isn't a significant aspect of web design or Internet traffic in 2025.
- dzhiurgis 1y agoWhen you posit like that makes me think doordash shouldn’t be an app at first place.
- layer8 1y agoDocument-centric, form-driven websites aren’t traditionally called apps. The Wikipedia website isn’t an app. Web forums aren’t apps. “App” implies that essential parts of the interaction logic are driven by client-side code (JS, not HTML) that couldn’t similarly be implemented by HTML forms.
- chuckadams 1y agoSure Wikipedia is an app, long as you think of static websites as a subset of web apps. One might say that makes the term meaningless, I say it's a deliberately vague term because people don't want or need to get cornered by fine distinctions. Otherwise it's endless quibbling over whether things like search do or do not count toward a site being a "real" app.
- layer8 1y agoYour definition of the term simply doesn’t match common usage.
- MYEUHD 1y agoThat's the discussion being had. HN would've been considered an app if it was built as SPA