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Yeah, I used to hear all the time that "a startup is worth $1 million per engineer in a pure acquihire", but learned the hard way this is a myth. When we were
by kentonv 1y ago
Yeah, I used to hear all the time that "a startup is worth $1 million per engineer in a pure acquihire", but learned the hard way this is a myth.
When we were talking to various companies about acquiring Sandstorm.io (my startup) in 2017, one of the companies told me, essentially: "We aren't interested in your IP, only the employees. We'll give you a set of job offers for them. We will then sum up the salary and equity grants from these offers, and call that the acquisition price. If you want to take some of that money and redirect it to your investors instead, that is up to you."
I was a bit taken aback. Obviously I wasn't about to take a cut of my employees' future comp and give it to investors.
Instead we ended up going to Cloudflare, but not as an acquisition. Cloudflare told us very honestly that they couldn't justify buying the IP, but they would be willing to acquire the company for $0 to wind it down for us. I decided to just take the job offers but keep the company independent as an open source side project, thinking maybe I'd revive it eventually. Turned out to be a mistake as some guy who was mad we didn't hire him sued Sandstorm six months later, and that was then my problem instead of Cloudflare's, oops. Should have sold for $0.
(Once it became clear to the plaintiff('s lawyer) that we weren't going to settle, they stopped pushing the case forward, but didn't drop it, so it just sat in limbo for 5 years before the judge finally threw it out it 2022. Meanwhile I couldn't dissolve the company and had to keep filing taxes for it. Ugh... lessons learned.)
- kingforaday 1y agoWhoa, bummer but interesting. It can be hard to let go. Thanks for sharing.
- swyx 1y agosorry that happened to you. what taxes do you have to pay on a company making 0? just delaware franchise tax?
- kentonv 1y agoThat and $800 CA franchise tax. But the money wasn't really significant. It was just annoying to have to prepare the returns every year.
- MichaelZuo 1y agoDid your legal counsel at the time not mention that was a possibility?
- kentonv 1y agoYes, of course. But given the circumstances we all believed it was highly unlikely he'd actually sue.
- lvl155 1y agoSo many bitter aholes in this business.
- igor47 1y agoThat sucks. FWIW I had a sandstorm instance back in the day, and I think it was an idea ahead of it's time. The stuff you were trying to do I think got easier as containers became more widely adopted, and as enshittification has made the case for self-hosting more obvious. So... Thanks for trying!