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They post images of the men in question without consent.
by ioasuncvinvaer 1y ago
They post images of the men in question without consent.
- dragonwriter 1y agoUnless they are intimate images (in which case revenge porn laws are likely to apply), copyrightable images for which someone other than the poster is the creator posted without the copyright holder’s permission (in which case copyright applies), or being used for commercial promotion or to suggest endorsement (in which case, depending on which states law applies, state law right of personality/publicity, especially if the subject is a celebrity, might apply), that's generally legal in the US.
- ohdeargodno 1y ago> that's generally legal in the US. Cool, I'm sure Tea is only available to report things about United States citiz... nevermind. It runs afoul of about a dozen european rights to privacy, imagery and consent laws. And that's just by posting pictures ! Libel and slander are a bunch of others, right to a response is also another... the list is long. It is, once again, yet another dudebro trying to skirt legality.
- dragonwriter 1y ago> It runs afoul of about a dozen european rights to privacy, imagery and consent laws The EU is welcome to try to enforce its local laws on the US operations of a US business open only to US users, but I don’t think its going to have much success.
- ohdeargodno 1y agoIt's cute that the Americans think they're some special, unrestricted by law type of citizens: they're not. https://www.edpb.europa.eu/system/files/2024-10/edpb_20240417_report_extraterritorial_enforcement_gdpr_en.pdf https://www.edpb.europa.eu/system/files/2024-10/edpb_2024041... That boat already sailed and it already happened. "US only operations" does not matter (which is already bullshit, as Tea does not verify that users are US ones, they merely disabled downloading in the play/app store): posting pictures of European citizens runs afoul of European laws. Sure, they can't come and arrest you on US soil. Just don't travel too much.
- fc417fc802 1y agoUnrestricted by foreign law, yes. Would you be in favor of having US law enforced against you? It bewilders me why anyone would want more of this nonsense in the world instead of less. The document you linked is interesting but I'm skeptical that you actually read it. It effectively says that in practice there's no hope of enforcing actions against entities that are purely in the US unless their behavior has run afoul of state or federal policy. It does note that if concrete damages are recognized by the court that there is a decent chance US courts will cooperate to enforce the judgment. But the vast majority of GDPR enforcement is punitive as opposed to compensatory so it's not particularly relevant. I'm also not clear why you think traveling would matter. DPA penalties are administrative in nature, not criminal. They are also likely to be levied against corporations as opposed to individuals. My guess is that the extremely unlikely worst case is your entry or visa application getting denied.
- ohdeargodno 1y agoUS law is _already_ enforced upon me. Banks regularly ask if you are a US citizen, or subject to the IRS in any way. The US affirms at every step the extraterritoriality of its harmful laws and attempts to use their pathetic excuse of "free speech" to defend multimillion dollar companies evading taxes in my country while damaging democracy. The US imposes its definition of copyright to the world, destroying access to culture and knowledge to billions. Needless to say, I am very happy about making the US eat shit.
- Quarrel 1y agoWhile the GDPR has extraterritoriality, you are over-reaching here. Tea can collect and use photos of EU citizens, if it collected them in the USA, with (all other things being equal) no fear of GDPR violations. So, yes Facebook can't collect photos of EU citizens, then process and do "stuff" with them in the USA, without violating GDPR, because that'd be the easiest out ever for multinational tech companies. It is the location of the subject of the personal data collection that matters, not their citizenship.
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- zoklet-enjoyer 1y agoWhy would they care if they're breaking European laws? They're not a European company.
- ohdeargodno 1y agoEuropean laws apply to any European citizen, _anywhere in the world_.
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- fc417fc802 1y agoAh yes, the notorious extraterritorial "right to be forgotten". Whereby the EU military dispatches its special forces to smash up computers in foreign data centers.
- Quarrel 1y agoThis is not true. Like, (almost) at all. (There are a few tiny exceptions, for instance, if an EU national commits child sexual abuse overseas, they can be prosecuted for it in the EU) Two Germans shooting each other in Australia break Australian law, but not German law.
- chopin 1y agoGermany does in fact prosecute severe crimes done in foreign countries. It will not act if Australia does, but it will act if Australia doesn't.
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- 9dev 1y agoNo, that isn't true. To the contrary actually, the GDPR applies to anyone on European soil, even US citizens. When you're on American soil, you fall under American legislation.
- ioasuncvinvaer 1y agoThank god the US is the only country in the world.
- dragonwriter 1y ago> Thank god the US is the only country in the world. Its the only country in the world where Tea operates or is open to users, what other country’s laws do you think apply to it?
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- nickthegreek 1y agoplease inform us before hitting post.
- dyauspitr 1y agoWhy have revenge porn laws and not revenge libel laws.
- dragonwriter 1y agoWhat are "revenge libel laws", and, in particular, how would they differ from regular libel laws?
- dyauspitr 1y agoHarsher penalties for a specific circumstance.
- dragonwriter 1y agoThat's not really analogous to revenge porn laws (where the “revenege" part is both non-literal—the actual condition is lack of consent—and refers to a special circumstance that makes what is normally legal, illegal, not an enhanced penalty for existing offense.) But if your proposed concept of “revenge libel” laws are just, as you say an added penalty for a subset of existing libel offenses, then while they might add more severe sanctions, they don't change the scope of what is prohibited, so they wouldn't change the calculus on whether anything is illegal.
- oc1 1y agoHoney, that's generally not legal in many jurisdictions in the world, including most of europe.
- School-Cotton 1y agoTrue, but we're not talking about those jurisdictions. This is a discussion about American users of an American app.
- danesparza 1y agoNah, man. They wanted to go on a date. There is risk involved, and implied consent. This isn't any different from a friend sharing details of their date with somebody they know (including pictures). If it's a bad date, I'm sure the tone of the conversation would be different (and might include "stay away from this person")