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>Spreading gossip on anyone is extremely evil. This a naive take. A moderate amount of gossip is good for society. It's a poor man's way of weeding out sociopa

>Spreading gossip on anyone is extremely evil. This a naive take. A moderate amount of gossip is good for society. It's a poor man's way of weeding out sociopaths who try to control people using information asymmetry, and who themselves don't have any qualms about spreading falsehoods.

OutOfHere 1y ago
To be clear, it is those who spread unsubstantiated gossip that are the sociopaths.
- sillyfluke 1y ago
  Yes I agree that could be the case, and people figure out which are the falsehoods by the act of gossiping as well, which is the point I'm making (like the anonymous salary data publishing site example I mentioned in another comment). A generic example: Jack tells Bob Alice spiked his promotion (a lie), knowing they are not on speaking terms and thinking Bob won't confront Alice. If Bob gossips to Alice about what Jack said, he is in a healthier position to make an assessment about the situation. Don't leave the gossiping to sociopaths is what I'm saying.
  - tempnew 1y ago
    Got to fight fire with fire. Only way to beat a sociopath is by being a bigger sociopath. Yet, I try to go a different way myself. I choose vulnerability over taking on sociopathic behavior. I’ll probably never become wealthy this way, but virtue is its own reward.
    - sillyfluke 1y ago
      Well what do you fight bad laws with? That's right you guessed it...other laws. Fighting fire with fire is everywhere. Crackers vs DRM, Reverse engineering vs vendor lockin, whistleblower protection, South Park vs MAGA, you name it. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good by letting those with no moral code run rampant all over the place.
soraminazuki 1y ago
> This a naive take. The site is no different from Kiwi Farms, and I'm sure they too believe that they have a just cause. Doesn't matter. Bending over backwards to justify this isn't a naivety-defying smart take, it's just plain horrid. > A moderate amount of gossip is good for society. From the article: > "What clubs does he go to?" another person asked on a different post. "He’s cute." You think this is social justice? Many jurisdictions have laws against online stalking and doxxing.
- sillyfluke 1y ago
  My comment was not addressing anything about Tea specifically, I was responding to the extreme generalization that was being made in that comment, which I directly quoted. We should be careful not to extremely overcorrect in response is all I'm saying. A site that that publishes salary data provided by anonymous users is also a type of "gossip site" for example.

OutOfHere 1y ago

To be clear, it is those who spread unsubstantiated gossip that are the sociopaths.

sillyfluke 1y ago
Yes I agree that could be the case, and people figure out which are the falsehoods by the act of gossiping as well, which is the point I'm making (like the anonymous salary data publishing site example I mentioned in another comment). A generic example: Jack tells Bob Alice spiked his promotion (a lie), knowing they are not on speaking terms and thinking Bob won't confront Alice. If Bob gossips to Alice about what Jack said, he is in a healthier position to make an assessment about the situation. Don't leave the gossiping to sociopaths is what I'm saying.
- tempnew 1y ago
  Got to fight fire with fire. Only way to beat a sociopath is by being a bigger sociopath. Yet, I try to go a different way myself. I choose vulnerability over taking on sociopathic behavior. I’ll probably never become wealthy this way, but virtue is its own reward.
  - sillyfluke 1y ago
    Well what do you fight bad laws with? That's right you guessed it...other laws. Fighting fire with fire is everywhere. Crackers vs DRM, Reverse engineering vs vendor lockin, whistleblower protection, South Park vs MAGA, you name it. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good by letting those with no moral code run rampant all over the place.

soraminazuki 1y ago

> This a naive take. The site is no different from Kiwi Farms, and I'm sure they too believe that they have a just cause. Doesn't matter. Bending over backwards to justify this isn't a naivety-defying smart take, it's just plain horrid. > A moderate amount of gossip is good for society. From the article: > "What clubs does he go to?" another person asked on a different post. "He’s cute." You think this is social justice? Many jurisdictions have laws against online stalking and doxxing.

sillyfluke 1y ago
My comment was not addressing anything about Tea specifically, I was responding to the extreme generalization that was being made in that comment, which I directly quoted. We should be careful not to extremely overcorrect in response is all I'm saying. A site that that publishes salary data provided by anonymous users is also a type of "gossip site" for example.