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> People exchange control for comfort, but most people never had any need or ability for this control in the first place. That's why cloud-services became popul

> People exchange control for comfort, but most people never had any need or ability for this control in the first place. That's why cloud-services became popular, and remain popular. I can--and did for the better part of ~15 years--run and maintain my own self-hosted everything (hardware, DNS, SMTP, httpd, etc, etc, etc). Then I got married and had kids and went to grad school and had a demanding job where I was doing many of the same things I did at home. I just fucking don't have the personal time nor desire to manage that shit any longer. Why? Because I have better things to do w/my free time than fuck around with my homelab (or whatever the in-term is these days). When I'm done with work, I just want to go outside or read a book. I am VERY WELL AWARE of the risks and privacy implications; but, my actual freedom from the day-to-day is worth far more to me at this point in my life.

ryandrake 1y ago
I do the same things (self-hosted server, NAS storage, DNS, email, http for a handful of domains, some development VMs) and it's really set-and-forget. It doesn't require maintenance. Every once in a while LetsEncrypt's certbot falls over and I have to log in to manually refresh ssh certificates, but HN commenters tell me it's user error, so it's something I can also fix to be set-and-forget if I really cared. My self-hosting infrastructure will probably outlive me.
- bevr1337 1y ago
  The person you're replying to said they maintained a homelab for 15 years. I'm sure they have the experience to correctly gauge the amount of effort required. What you're arguing is qualitative. There is _some_ maintenance, as you admitted, and the OP has other priorities. I personally relate to the person you're replying to. I sleep better not worrying about HDD health or if my APs can reach their controller. Tried it - not for me.

ryandrake 1y ago

I do the same things (self-hosted server, NAS storage, DNS, email, http for a handful of domains, some development VMs) and it's really set-and-forget. It doesn't require maintenance. Every once in a while LetsEncrypt's certbot falls over and I have to log in to manually refresh ssh certificates, but HN commenters tell me it's user error, so it's something I can also fix to be set-and-forget if I really cared. My self-hosting infrastructure will probably outlive me.

bevr1337 1y ago
The person you're replying to said they maintained a homelab for 15 years. I'm sure they have the experience to correctly gauge the amount of effort required. What you're arguing is qualitative. There is _some_ maintenance, as you admitted, and the OP has other priorities. I personally relate to the person you're replying to. I sleep better not worrying about HDD health or if my APs can reach their controller. Tried it - not for me.