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> What we need first is incentive for smart, dedicated, part-time sys-admins to devote time and effort to community hosting. I’d do it for free. I’ve long been
by sgarland 1y ago
> What we need first is incentive for smart, dedicated, part-time sys-admins to devote time and effort to community hosting.
I’d do it for free. I’ve long been frustrated that I have more reliable infrastructure in my homelab than most companies I’ve worked for, and that none of them have any interest in shifting out of the cloud.
I don’t see a market for it, though. Most people are generally happy with Google, Apple, etc. to host their stuff, and I get it - it’s quite reliable, integrates with the rest of their respective products nicely, and Just Works. Add to that the economies of scale, and it’s a non-starter unless you find a niche group of people.
Google One is $99/year for 2 TB of storage. For me to have confidence in uptime to offer public storage, I’d need at least 4U of colo rack space, and ideally 6U (2x 2U for HDD servers, 2x 1U for hosting applications in HA-ish). That would cost a few hundred USD/month, not to mention an initial outlay of tens of thousands of dollars for servers and drives (mostly the drives… high capacity enterprise-rated HDDs aren’t cheap). And that’s only for one site - ideally, of course, there are at least two, or at the very least, off-site backup like rsync.net.
- jqpabc123 1y agoI’d do it for free. And if you get hit by a car? Or worse --- maybe you get married and have kids<g>? One big reason people *buy* service is sustainability/longevity/redundancy. There are no absolute guarantees but I think most commercial endeavors nowadays would bet on AWS/Google/MS/Apple over "Hosting by Joe and Friends".
- esseph 1y agoThere is no guarantee that the service you buy will exist tomorrow, and if they go out of business, there is no guarantee you can get your data out before they close the platform.
- jqpabc123 1y agoYes, exactly as I stated --- there are few guarantees in life. So use your best judgment and place your bets accordingly. Personally, I'm betting on those who are highly incentivized and have the resources and structure needed to sustain reliable service.
- ryandrake 1y agoWho is more highly incentivized than oneself, to keep their valuable data and treasured memories safe and sustained?
- jqpabc123 1y agoNo one. But unfortunately, more than just incentive is required to make it happen.
- udev4096 1y agoGood luck being owned. If you don't take the action to safe guard your personal data, no one will. Stop living in a fantasy
- jqpabc123 1y agoThanks for your concern but all my personal data is perfectly safe. I keep it in an old fashioned thing called a "backup" --- complete with encryption. I maintain 3 copies --- no hosting required. One copy is strapped to my wrist at all times so it is always just as safe as I am --- if not safer. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6784665 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6784665
- sgarland 1y agoThat’s pretty cool! Especially with how dense microSD cards are these days, you could probably store every (important) photo an average person has without issue, along with the normal documents and whatnot.
- jqpabc123 1y agoYes. This is the "1" part of my 3-2-1 backup strategy. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/the-3-2-1-backup-strategy/ https://www.backblaze.com/blog/the-3-2-1-backup-strategy/
- sgarland 1y agoI have zero desire to host things commercially, as in for businesses; the point of TFA (at least, as I read it) was community-based, for people. Also, FWIW I am married and have kids. Hasn’t stopped me from homelabbing.