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blah blah blah. Speak for yourself. I'll miss him, probably along with many others, as a cultural piece of my childhood, adolescence and for years still there a

blah blah blah. Speak for yourself. I'll miss him, probably along with many others, as a cultural piece of my childhood, adolescence and for years still there as a curious part of a changing adult world. If we judged every human being in history by these nebulously stupid standards, there'd be nobody left to like.

iand675 1y ago
There are plenty of people left to like who aren't racist and misogynist. It's okay to update your worldview of your heroes when they behave badly.
- AlexeyBelov 1y ago
  Look at this user's comments in other threads. They won't update their worldview.
  - southernplaces7 1y ago
    On the contrary. My worldview has been and still is shaped by an ever changing learning curve of the world's nature. That includes being flexible enough to show some affection even for that which doesn't fit rigorous dogmas of conduct. Can you say the same about your labels?
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  And there are plenty of people who can still be liked, or appreciated at least, who also were racist and misogynist, or whatever other moral defect you like. It's okay to show affection for someone who didn't perfectly fit the strictures of what a specific type of virtue signalling labels as correct.
cutlilacs 1y ago
> nebulously stupid standards You should listen to the racist recording. It wasn't nebulous, it was clearly and explicitly racist. Most people think he went way too far. This isn’t a case of subtle racism where people might be overreaching; what he said was awful. Sorry you can't outgrow your childhood, but you should come to terms that the man you idolized was a shitty person.
myvoiceismypass 1y ago
> nebulously stupid standards Here's the quote, talking about his daughter: “I mean, I’d rather if she was going to fck some ngger, I’d rather have her marry an 8-foot-tall ngger worth a hundred million dollars! Like a basketball player! I guess we’re all a little racist. Fcking n*gger.” Feels fucking gross to even read this out loud.
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  Meh. Shitty words, sure, but I've read and heard worse from all kinds of people, enough not to completely dismiss the possible better, and more interesting aspects of someone because they didn't speak nicely or intelligently in every context.

iand675 1y ago

There are plenty of people left to like who aren't racist and misogynist. It's okay to update your worldview of your heroes when they behave badly.

AlexeyBelov 1y ago
Look at this user's comments in other threads. They won't update their worldview.
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  On the contrary. My worldview has been and still is shaped by an ever changing learning curve of the world's nature. That includes being flexible enough to show some affection even for that which doesn't fit rigorous dogmas of conduct. Can you say the same about your labels?
southernplaces7 1y ago
And there are plenty of people who can still be liked, or appreciated at least, who also were racist and misogynist, or whatever other moral defect you like. It's okay to show affection for someone who didn't perfectly fit the strictures of what a specific type of virtue signalling labels as correct.

cutlilacs 1y ago

> nebulously stupid standards You should listen to the racist recording. It wasn't nebulous, it was clearly and explicitly racist. Most people think he went way too far. This isn’t a case of subtle racism where people might be overreaching; what he said was awful. Sorry you can't outgrow your childhood, but you should come to terms that the man you idolized was a shitty person.

myvoiceismypass 1y ago

> nebulously stupid standards Here's the quote, talking about his daughter: “I mean, I’d rather if she was going to fck some ngger, I’d rather have her marry an 8-foot-tall ngger worth a hundred million dollars! Like a basketball player! I guess we’re all a little racist. Fcking n*gger.” Feels fucking gross to even read this out loud.

southernplaces7 1y ago
Meh. Shitty words, sure, but I've read and heard worse from all kinds of people, enough not to completely dismiss the possible better, and more interesting aspects of someone because they didn't speak nicely or intelligently in every context.