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Somewhat coincidentally, executive order today making homelessness a priority federal issue. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-orders-crackdown-homeless-en

Somewhat coincidentally, executive order today making homelessness a priority federal issue. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-orders-crackdown-homeless-encampments-nationwide-2025-07-25/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-orders-crackdown-home...

barbazoo 1y ago
I was thinking wealth inequality, mental health, etc. > Trump orders crackdown on homeless encampments nationwide He went another way, it’s almost comical if it weren’t so sad.
- monero-xmr 1y ago
  There are some homeless people, screaming all day, addicted to drugs, defecating in their pants and in the street. These people do not deserve to live in the street. Having the “freedom” to do this where children walk on the sidewalk is actually completely insane. We live in a society. They need to be forcibly removed, put into asylums, given 24/7 care, and if they recover they can re-enter society. Alternatively I would be amenable to putting them in, say, national parks, where they are given a tent and free food so they can scream all day there. Maybe it would be far enough away from transport that drug dealers wouldn’t bother to drive out there. But not in a major metropolis where normal people need to live and work. It’s absurd
  - DangitBobby 1y ago
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    - surge 1y ago
      All the progressive solutions seem to only not work, but exacerbate the problem and expose the public to more risk. Not to mention all the sympathy and gentle parenting the problem under the masquerade of tolerance just keeps the homeless in their addictions and spirals while those that dictate policies can get away with doing nothing and live in their secure buildings and escorted by private cars and security so as to never look at the problem. The lack of authority on the matter leaves it to random citizens to deal with, sometimes with deadly or legal consequences when its mishandled instead of being handled appropriately by trained law enforcement or social workers. Sadly, the past solution was more humane than the current ones when you look purely at the end results.
      - DangitBobby 1y ago
        Yes, we really tried so hard to help these people, didn't we?
      - righthand 1y ago
        Which solutions are you writing about that have been tried? Were those solutions properly funded? Were those solutions watered down into broken systems moments before signing the bill? The past solution was not more humane. Tell me this, what part of the past solution was different from a prison? Why do you think they broke them up in the first place? You want to round people up against their rights, then give everyone healthcare so you don’t burden them with debt by forcing them into care.
        Avicebron 1y ago
        > Which solutions are you writing about that have been tried? Were those solutions properly funded? Were those solutions watered down into broken systems moments before signing the bill? Last time I parked in that garage that's right across the street from Berkeley, I saw a middle aged woman screaming in some kind of mental anguish in a dirty sleeping bag covered in her own shit. From what I remember the students having a coffee at the cafe 20 feet away just sort of dealt with it, I think I was around Fulton and Oxford. If you can't propose a solution to this, I don't see what you are adding to conversation. And yes, we should give everyone healthcare, that's a foregone conclusion here. The question is, _what_ is the solution to the above scenario. Is it a checkup, a clean needle (is that van still parked at the BART downtown idk), a pat on the back, a pile of job applications, a warm sandwich and a pamphlet that says vote democrat. Man we are so far beyond stupidity, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, here's your prompt. The above situation is a microcosm of a broader issue, engineer your way out of it, or stay out of the conversation.
        fc417fc802 1y ago
        You didn't answer the question. What past solution was tried and actually worked and wasn't cruel or abusive to those who were "helped"? People adopt this attitude that "obviously we just need to fix the problem using tried and true methods" but they can't actually articulate what those methods are. It's all just hot air. I would like to suggest that at least in the case of the US the problems are largely political and thus there can be no straightforward solution since the people who would enact any solution are themselves the root cause. > engineer your way out of it, or stay out of the conversation. Yet a solution is conspicuously missing from your own rant.
- Jensson 1y ago
  Read the first sentence for context, they aren't just being shooed away its to help them. > President Donald Trump on Thursday signed an executive order urging cities and states to clear homeless encampments and move people into treatment centers
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - conception 1y ago
    Florida built a “treatment center” in seven days!
  - magicalist 1y ago
    > Read the first sentence for context, they aren't just being shooed away its to help them. Well, no, it says it's to help them. Important difference. Like saying you're restoring free speech but then personally calling up Rupert Murdoch to kill a news story. Or saying you're bringing in radical transparency to the HHS, but then cancelling all public notice and comment periods on new health policies. Or saying you're a fiscal hawk but consistently voting for bigger deficits. You get it.
  - skylissue 1y ago
    I will assume that you are genuine in your belief that Trump or city leaders have any intention of helping people experiencing homelessness. In practice, the only thing that matters to them is to remove homeless people from public spaces by any means necessary. Any rhetoric about doing so for their benefit will not be followed through with. Most people who are homeless are either addicted to drugs which precludes them from participating in programs which require immediate abstinence, or too mentally ill to be helped with the limited funding that will be supplied for their "treatment". It is much more likely that they will be imprisoned indefinitely in a for-profit prison owned by a Trump donor than "helped" in any meaningful capacity.
  - mdhb 1y ago
    By concentrating them into a camp like set up… They have zero intention of helping them. These things are literally being built before your eyes. It was brown people last month and it’s homeless people this month… it’s not going to stop unless they are physically stopped.
charlescearl 1y ago
Executive order criminalizing homelessness. The order comes on the day I witnessed police disappear an unhoused person
- red-iron-pine 1y ago
  you're gonna be seeing a lot more people disappearing in the next few year, mate. they've given ICE more money than the FBI+DEA, or more than the entire Russian military.

barbazoo 1y ago

I was thinking wealth inequality, mental health, etc. > Trump orders crackdown on homeless encampments nationwide He went another way, it’s almost comical if it weren’t so sad.

monero-xmr 1y ago
There are some homeless people, screaming all day, addicted to drugs, defecating in their pants and in the street. These people do not deserve to live in the street. Having the “freedom” to do this where children walk on the sidewalk is actually completely insane. We live in a society. They need to be forcibly removed, put into asylums, given 24/7 care, and if they recover they can re-enter society. Alternatively I would be amenable to putting them in, say, national parks, where they are given a tent and free food so they can scream all day there. Maybe it would be far enough away from transport that drug dealers wouldn’t bother to drive out there. But not in a major metropolis where normal people need to live and work. It’s absurd
- DangitBobby 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - surge 1y ago
    All the progressive solutions seem to only not work, but exacerbate the problem and expose the public to more risk. Not to mention all the sympathy and gentle parenting the problem under the masquerade of tolerance just keeps the homeless in their addictions and spirals while those that dictate policies can get away with doing nothing and live in their secure buildings and escorted by private cars and security so as to never look at the problem. The lack of authority on the matter leaves it to random citizens to deal with, sometimes with deadly or legal consequences when its mishandled instead of being handled appropriately by trained law enforcement or social workers. Sadly, the past solution was more humane than the current ones when you look purely at the end results.
    - DangitBobby 1y ago
      Yes, we really tried so hard to help these people, didn't we?
    - righthand 1y ago
      Which solutions are you writing about that have been tried? Were those solutions properly funded? Were those solutions watered down into broken systems moments before signing the bill? The past solution was not more humane. Tell me this, what part of the past solution was different from a prison? Why do you think they broke them up in the first place? You want to round people up against their rights, then give everyone healthcare so you don’t burden them with debt by forcing them into care.
      - Avicebron 1y ago
        > Which solutions are you writing about that have been tried? Were those solutions properly funded? Were those solutions watered down into broken systems moments before signing the bill? Last time I parked in that garage that's right across the street from Berkeley, I saw a middle aged woman screaming in some kind of mental anguish in a dirty sleeping bag covered in her own shit. From what I remember the students having a coffee at the cafe 20 feet away just sort of dealt with it, I think I was around Fulton and Oxford. If you can't propose a solution to this, I don't see what you are adding to conversation. And yes, we should give everyone healthcare, that's a foregone conclusion here. The question is, _what_ is the solution to the above scenario. Is it a checkup, a clean needle (is that van still parked at the BART downtown idk), a pat on the back, a pile of job applications, a warm sandwich and a pamphlet that says vote democrat. Man we are so far beyond stupidity, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, here's your prompt. The above situation is a microcosm of a broader issue, engineer your way out of it, or stay out of the conversation.
        fc417fc802 1y ago
        You didn't answer the question. What past solution was tried and actually worked and wasn't cruel or abusive to those who were "helped"? People adopt this attitude that "obviously we just need to fix the problem using tried and true methods" but they can't actually articulate what those methods are. It's all just hot air. I would like to suggest that at least in the case of the US the problems are largely political and thus there can be no straightforward solution since the people who would enact any solution are themselves the root cause. > engineer your way out of it, or stay out of the conversation. Yet a solution is conspicuously missing from your own rant.
Jensson 1y ago
Read the first sentence for context, they aren't just being shooed away its to help them. > President Donald Trump on Thursday signed an executive order urging cities and states to clear homeless encampments and move people into treatment centers
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- conception 1y ago
  Florida built a “treatment center” in seven days!
- magicalist 1y ago
  > Read the first sentence for context, they aren't just being shooed away its to help them. Well, no, it says it's to help them. Important difference. Like saying you're restoring free speech but then personally calling up Rupert Murdoch to kill a news story. Or saying you're bringing in radical transparency to the HHS, but then cancelling all public notice and comment periods on new health policies. Or saying you're a fiscal hawk but consistently voting for bigger deficits. You get it.
- skylissue 1y ago
  I will assume that you are genuine in your belief that Trump or city leaders have any intention of helping people experiencing homelessness. In practice, the only thing that matters to them is to remove homeless people from public spaces by any means necessary. Any rhetoric about doing so for their benefit will not be followed through with. Most people who are homeless are either addicted to drugs which precludes them from participating in programs which require immediate abstinence, or too mentally ill to be helped with the limited funding that will be supplied for their "treatment". It is much more likely that they will be imprisoned indefinitely in a for-profit prison owned by a Trump donor than "helped" in any meaningful capacity.
- mdhb 1y ago
  By concentrating them into a camp like set up… They have zero intention of helping them. These things are literally being built before your eyes. It was brown people last month and it’s homeless people this month… it’s not going to stop unless they are physically stopped.

charlescearl 1y ago

Executive order criminalizing homelessness. The order comes on the day I witnessed police disappear an unhoused person

red-iron-pine 1y ago
you're gonna be seeing a lot more people disappearing in the next few year, mate. they've given ICE more money than the FBI+DEA, or more than the entire Russian military.