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> I get that not all Republicans are racist, but with your party having given voices to so many far-right wackos, it's hard not to tar you all with the same bru

by anamax 14y ago

> I get that not all Republicans are racist, but with your party having given voices to so many far-right wackos, it's hard not to tar you all with the same brush sometimes. Yeah, like Westburo Baptist Church, David Duke, and the Truthers. Oops, they're all Democrats. As are the New Black Panthers, who actually physically threatened folks at voting places during the 2008 elections. As are the "black bloc" folks. I'm not saying that there aren't far-right wackos, but there are just as many, if not more, wackos that are Democrats. And, Dem-affiliates are committing the majority of the political violence these days. Remember WTO in Seattle? Isaac kept this down during the Repub convention but the Dem convention won't be as lucky. Care to explain why Dems don't get tarred with that brush?

corin_ 14y ago
My first answer is that it's because Democrats don't campaign on these things, stuff like homophobia. The wider answer is simply that people don't hear about these things as much. Maybe some Democrats do campaign with far-right policies, but... I'm not aware of them. Wesburo Baptist Church for example, I've never heard anything about their members being democrats, though I would query that claim given they aren't a political group, so even if some of them are, likely not all of them... not to mention Wikipedia tells me their general opinion is that Obama is going to hell for being "the antichrist". End of the day I've heard plenty of data points for Republican wackos, and few for Democrat ones, so that's where my opinion comes from. Maybe it's because I'm English that I haven't heard a different story, but plenty of Americans I know have the same opinion.
- anamax 14y ago
  > My first answer is that it's because Democrats don't campaign on these things, stuff like homophobia. Oh really? A cite would be nice. The official Republican position on gay marriage is exactly the same as Bill Clinton's. Obama had that position until about six months ago. Are they anti-homosexual? > not to mention Wikipedia tells me their general opinion is that Obama is going to hell for being "the antichrist". The occupy folks have a similar opinion of Obama these days and no one suggests that they're not good democrats/leftists. Yes, there are some intermural arguments, but when it comes down to it, they're democrats, as are the Larouche folks and a bunch of other wackos. > The wider answer is simply that people don't hear about these things as much. ... End of the day I've heard plenty of data points for Republican wackos, and few for Democrat ones, so that's where my opinion comes from. That's a very different argument. (Data point - would you say that The Guardian reports everything of interest? Or, do they have a position that they argue?) While your opinion may be understandable, it isn't actually based on reality.

by anamax 14y ago

corin_ 14y ago

My first answer is that it's because Democrats don't campaign on these things, stuff like homophobia. The wider answer is simply that people don't hear about these things as much. Maybe some Democrats do campaign with far-right policies, but... I'm not aware of them. Wesburo Baptist Church for example, I've never heard anything about their members being democrats, though I would query that claim given they aren't a political group, so even if some of them are, likely not all of them... not to mention Wikipedia tells me their general opinion is that Obama is going to hell for being "the antichrist". End of the day I've heard plenty of data points for Republican wackos, and few for Democrat ones, so that's where my opinion comes from. Maybe it's because I'm English that I haven't heard a different story, but plenty of Americans I know have the same opinion.

anamax 14y ago
> My first answer is that it's because Democrats don't campaign on these things, stuff like homophobia. Oh really? A cite would be nice. The official Republican position on gay marriage is exactly the same as Bill Clinton's. Obama had that position until about six months ago. Are they anti-homosexual? > not to mention Wikipedia tells me their general opinion is that Obama is going to hell for being "the antichrist". The occupy folks have a similar opinion of Obama these days and no one suggests that they're not good democrats/leftists. Yes, there are some intermural arguments, but when it comes down to it, they're democrats, as are the Larouche folks and a bunch of other wackos. > The wider answer is simply that people don't hear about these things as much. ... End of the day I've heard plenty of data points for Republican wackos, and few for Democrat ones, so that's where my opinion comes from. That's a very different argument. (Data point - would you say that The Guardian reports everything of interest? Or, do they have a position that they argue?) While your opinion may be understandable, it isn't actually based on reality.