> the issue is that we've never been able to measure any form of productivity/quality in software development. Yep. It's been a "problem" for decades at this p

> the issue is that we've never been able to measure any form of productivity/quality in software development. Yep. It's been a "problem" for decades at this point. Business types constantly trying, and failing, to find some way to measure dev productivity, like they can with other types of office drone work. We've been through Lines of Code, Function Points, various agile metrics, etc. None of these have given business types their holy grail of a perfectly objective measure of productivity. But no one wants to accept an answer of "You just can't effectively measure productivity in software development" because we now live in a data-driven business culture where every little thing must be measured and quantified.