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The Daryl Davis that was mentioned is a black man who befriended many KKK members and resulted in them giving up their robes https://www.ted.com/talks/daryl_da

The Daryl Davis that was mentioned is a black man who befriended many KKK members and resulted in them giving up their robes https://www.ted.com/talks/daryl_davis_klan_we_talk https://www.ted.com/talks/daryl_davis_klan_we_talk

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
You didn’t answer the question - are you a minority? Do you also think Hispanic people who are here legally should have a chat with a bunch of ICE agents to change their hearts and minds? If you are White, would you go out of your way to reach out to someone who belongs to a group who actively hates White people? I’m not naming a specific group even though I’m sure they exists because I honestly have no idea what groups they are and I would no more spend energy trying to change their minds either. If anyone in my family said anything that was outright racist or homophobic I would check them also. My dad (now 83) on the other hand did slightly change his opinion on sexuality when he had to admit that one of his nephews were gay. But even then on a macro level he isn’t going to be waving a Pride flag around and he still thinks being gay is a moral sin that is going to damn a person to hell. It’s just like a White guy I was friends with for years on a personal level, I had no doubt that if I needed him or if he saw someone harassing me or my family he would take out one of his many guns and defend me. But once Trump came on the scene and I saw some of his posts on FB, I realized that he treated me as “one of the good ones” and if I was some random guy that he met on the street he would’ve treated me differently. He went on a racist tirade on Facebook about his daughter dating a Black guy for instance.
- anonymars 1y ago
  I'm not the person you were replying to originally, I was providing context for who Daryl Davis is and what he has done That doesn't mean everyone else has to do the same thing, anymore than save the whales or end world hunger. Only that people aren't immutable and irredeemable and it's not fair to dismiss the idea of connecting with them as inherently ridiculous
  - scarface_74 1y ago
    Yes and because $TechFounder can drop out of school and become a multi billionaire, you can too. It’s “Survivorshio Bias” at its finest.
    - anonymars 1y ago
      "Have patience and try to understand people you disagree with, and they might be open to changing their mind" isn't an out-of-reach unicorn tech investment, it is a fundamental building block of effective human communication. Ask any good salesperson
      - JustExAWS 1y ago
        There is a huge difference between “I don’t agree with your stance on supply side economics or universal healthcare” and “I would just as well see you hanging from a tree as sitting here next to me” or “because you decide to love someone of the same sex, you are going to bring an end to this great nation and I will do everything I can to make your life miserable”, I am not trying to “understand” anyone who thinks someone doesn’t deserve to exist.
        anonymars 1y ago
        So don't. But why insist to everyone else that engaging with prejudice and changing people's minds is impossible?
        scarface_74 1y ago
        Yet I bet you’re not going to try to do outreach to people you know want to see you or your family harmed just because of the color of your skin…
        anonymars 1y ago
        Why do you assume that, and what is it you would like to achieve by saying so? Do you think I champion this because I've never helped someone become less prejudiced? I'm sorry for what you've had to go through. But do you think the world will just change for the better of its own accord (or that it will never change for the better)?

raw_anon_1111 1y ago

You didn’t answer the question - are you a minority? Do you also think Hispanic people who are here legally should have a chat with a bunch of ICE agents to change their hearts and minds? If you are White, would you go out of your way to reach out to someone who belongs to a group who actively hates White people? I’m not naming a specific group even though I’m sure they exists because I honestly have no idea what groups they are and I would no more spend energy trying to change their minds either. If anyone in my family said anything that was outright racist or homophobic I would check them also. My dad (now 83) on the other hand did slightly change his opinion on sexuality when he had to admit that one of his nephews were gay. But even then on a macro level he isn’t going to be waving a Pride flag around and he still thinks being gay is a moral sin that is going to damn a person to hell. It’s just like a White guy I was friends with for years on a personal level, I had no doubt that if I needed him or if he saw someone harassing me or my family he would take out one of his many guns and defend me. But once Trump came on the scene and I saw some of his posts on FB, I realized that he treated me as “one of the good ones” and if I was some random guy that he met on the street he would’ve treated me differently. He went on a racist tirade on Facebook about his daughter dating a Black guy for instance.

anonymars 1y ago
I'm not the person you were replying to originally, I was providing context for who Daryl Davis is and what he has done That doesn't mean everyone else has to do the same thing, anymore than save the whales or end world hunger. Only that people aren't immutable and irredeemable and it's not fair to dismiss the idea of connecting with them as inherently ridiculous
- scarface_74 1y ago
  Yes and because $TechFounder can drop out of school and become a multi billionaire, you can too. It’s “Survivorshio Bias” at its finest.
  - anonymars 1y ago
    "Have patience and try to understand people you disagree with, and they might be open to changing their mind" isn't an out-of-reach unicorn tech investment, it is a fundamental building block of effective human communication. Ask any good salesperson
    - JustExAWS 1y ago
      There is a huge difference between “I don’t agree with your stance on supply side economics or universal healthcare” and “I would just as well see you hanging from a tree as sitting here next to me” or “because you decide to love someone of the same sex, you are going to bring an end to this great nation and I will do everything I can to make your life miserable”, I am not trying to “understand” anyone who thinks someone doesn’t deserve to exist.
      - anonymars 1y ago
        So don't. But why insist to everyone else that engaging with prejudice and changing people's minds is impossible?
        scarface_74 1y ago
        Yet I bet you’re not going to try to do outreach to people you know want to see you or your family harmed just because of the color of your skin…
        anonymars 1y ago
        Why do you assume that, and what is it you would like to achieve by saying so? Do you think I champion this because I've never helped someone become less prejudiced? I'm sorry for what you've had to go through. But do you think the world will just change for the better of its own accord (or that it will never change for the better)?