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> I'm sure you feel the same way about cutting down on cell phones right How many people die in cell phone accidents yearly where you live? How many have reduc

by sofixa 1y ago

> I'm sure you feel the same way about cutting down on cell phones right How many people die in cell phone accidents yearly where you live? How many have reduced lifespans due to the pollution of cell phones? And how many hours can be saved per year per human with good cell phone sharing? I would guess the number is 0 for all of those, but quite a bit higher for cars alternative transportation options. If you feel personally offended by the mere idea that there might be alternatives to cars, and that at the scale of a human settlement, they're often better, you need to take a step back and consider why you identify yourself with cars so much. And if that doesn't help, consider that more people having alternatives means less cars on the roads, so more space for you to vroom vroom around and less people bothering you on the road!

1234letshaveatw 1y ago
Do you have any idea how many hours the average person uses their phone? There is no other object that has been a greater detriment to mental and physical health in human history. This is just another instance where someone is willing to push something (only using public transport) on someone else because it fits their viewpoint, but you can't even consider something that would have a similar impact on yourself in return (giving up your phone).
- sofixa 1y ago
  > Do you have any idea how many hours the average person uses their phone Irrelevant on the topic of there being more efficient modes of transportation of humans in dense environments. > There is no other object that has been a greater detriment to mental and physical health in human history While potentially true, that's entirely ignoring all the extremely useful things people do with their phones. > only using public transport The fact that you take a mention of providing alternatives to cars as a stance on "only using public transport" indicates to me that you're not interested in having an actual discussion, and your car is part of your core identity. None of that is healthy, so again, step back and consider the benefits. Even purely selfishly, more people out of cars because they can bike or take the train is better for you because there will be less traffic for you.
  - 1234letshaveatw 1y ago
    For your own mental health, you need to take a breath and try and not take alternative viewpoints as personal attacks. The post I responded to referenced "efforts to try to reduce the number of cars on the roads instead of just replacing them 1:1 and calling it a day." i.e. reducing personal car ownership. Don't ignore the fact that people do extremely useful things with their cars- lifesaving activities. You obviously are attached to your phone, the same way people are attached to their personal cars. A little bit of empathy would go a long way here
    - sofixa 1y ago
      > For your own mental health, you need to take a breath and try and not take alternative viewpoints as personal attacks Like jumping to prison cells and bug juice at the hint of reducing the amount of cars on the roads?
      - 1234letshaveatw 1y ago
        Like taking the logical leap to the conclusion that I identify myself with cars?? Pot meet kettle
        sofixa 1y ago
        After you jumped to bug juice, yes, obviously cars make a big part of your identity.
ceejayoz 1y ago
> How many people die in cell phone accidents yearly where you live? To be fair: thousands. https://www.ncsl.org/transportation/distracted-driving-cellphone-use https://www.ncsl.org/transportation/distracted-driving-cellp...

by sofixa 1y ago

1234letshaveatw 1y ago

Do you have any idea how many hours the average person uses their phone? There is no other object that has been a greater detriment to mental and physical health in human history. This is just another instance where someone is willing to push something (only using public transport) on someone else because it fits their viewpoint, but you can't even consider something that would have a similar impact on yourself in return (giving up your phone).

sofixa 1y ago
> Do you have any idea how many hours the average person uses their phone Irrelevant on the topic of there being more efficient modes of transportation of humans in dense environments. > There is no other object that has been a greater detriment to mental and physical health in human history While potentially true, that's entirely ignoring all the extremely useful things people do with their phones. > only using public transport The fact that you take a mention of providing alternatives to cars as a stance on "only using public transport" indicates to me that you're not interested in having an actual discussion, and your car is part of your core identity. None of that is healthy, so again, step back and consider the benefits. Even purely selfishly, more people out of cars because they can bike or take the train is better for you because there will be less traffic for you.
- 1234letshaveatw 1y ago
  For your own mental health, you need to take a breath and try and not take alternative viewpoints as personal attacks. The post I responded to referenced "efforts to try to reduce the number of cars on the roads instead of just replacing them 1:1 and calling it a day." i.e. reducing personal car ownership. Don't ignore the fact that people do extremely useful things with their cars- lifesaving activities. You obviously are attached to your phone, the same way people are attached to their personal cars. A little bit of empathy would go a long way here
  - sofixa 1y ago
    > For your own mental health, you need to take a breath and try and not take alternative viewpoints as personal attacks Like jumping to prison cells and bug juice at the hint of reducing the amount of cars on the roads?
    - 1234letshaveatw 1y ago
      Like taking the logical leap to the conclusion that I identify myself with cars?? Pot meet kettle
      - sofixa 1y ago
        After you jumped to bug juice, yes, obviously cars make a big part of your identity.

ceejayoz 1y ago

> How many people die in cell phone accidents yearly where you live? To be fair: thousands. https://www.ncsl.org/transportation/distracted-driving-cellphone-use https://www.ncsl.org/transportation/distracted-driving-cellp...