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It is actually the reverse. Keto & carnivore(with only fatty read meat) is the best. If you have diseases like diabetes/epilepsy/mental-illness/food-addiction/e

It is actually the reverse. Keto & carnivore(with only fatty read meat) is the best. If you have diseases like diabetes/epilepsy/mental-illness/food-addiction/etc it (may) help a lot. I eat 6-7 days/week red meat. Source: I do ketovore for 2.5+ years.

hnfong 1y ago
FWIW, I hear there could be issues with (too much) iron especially for men. At any rate, do be aware that human biology is quite diverse and diets that work for one may not work for others.
- ddorian43 1y ago
  Note that you have to eat a lot of fat. It's not "high protein", it's "high fat, medium to low protein". > At any rate, do be aware that human biology is quite diverse and diets that work for one may not work for others. Only these type of diets may work for the diseases that I mentioned. Like it only works for some types of epilepsy.
- genocidicbunny 1y ago
  > FWIW, I hear there could be issues with (too much) iron especially for men. Too much iron can cause serious systemic issues, especially for the liver, and yes, men tend to have worse symptoms for the simple reason that one of the treatments for high iron is bloodletting. Unlike women, men don't have a natural built in mechanism to do so regularly.
pillefitz 1y ago
It's for sure not the "reverse", even if for some people with certain diseases the benefits may outweigh the risks. It's undeniably linked to certain cancers and arteriosclerosis
- ddorian43 1y ago
  It's actually the reverse. "some people" is every person that is overweight (50% of USA). "cancer" are studies where it includes other things, like fast food etc. Haven't researched arteriosclerosis, but we'd have to see studies being done on healthy patients with strict keto/carnivore and not dirty diet.
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Antipode 1y ago
That directly contradicts everything I've ever read about high red meat consumption. Are there reputable studies that back this up?
- ddorian43 1y ago
  No, there aren't. And no, you haven't ready any reputable studies where people did clean keto/carnivore. All your studies are people just talking about their diet, eating meat & stuff. And that "meat & stuff" never works on treating any diseases either. Feel free to link anything from "everything I've ever read about high red meat consumption" and we'll see if it's true keto/carnivore/ketovore.

hnfong 1y ago

FWIW, I hear there could be issues with (too much) iron especially for men. At any rate, do be aware that human biology is quite diverse and diets that work for one may not work for others.

ddorian43 1y ago
Note that you have to eat a lot of fat. It's not "high protein", it's "high fat, medium to low protein". > At any rate, do be aware that human biology is quite diverse and diets that work for one may not work for others. Only these type of diets may work for the diseases that I mentioned. Like it only works for some types of epilepsy.
genocidicbunny 1y ago
> FWIW, I hear there could be issues with (too much) iron especially for men. Too much iron can cause serious systemic issues, especially for the liver, and yes, men tend to have worse symptoms for the simple reason that one of the treatments for high iron is bloodletting. Unlike women, men don't have a natural built in mechanism to do so regularly.

pillefitz 1y ago

It's for sure not the "reverse", even if for some people with certain diseases the benefits may outweigh the risks. It's undeniably linked to certain cancers and arteriosclerosis

ddorian43 1y ago
It's actually the reverse. "some people" is every person that is overweight (50% of USA). "cancer" are studies where it includes other things, like fast food etc. Haven't researched arteriosclerosis, but we'd have to see studies being done on healthy patients with strict keto/carnivore and not dirty diet.
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Antipode 1y ago

That directly contradicts everything I've ever read about high red meat consumption. Are there reputable studies that back this up?

ddorian43 1y ago
No, there aren't. And no, you haven't ready any reputable studies where people did clean keto/carnivore. All your studies are people just talking about their diet, eating meat & stuff. And that "meat & stuff" never works on treating any diseases either. Feel free to link anything from "everything I've ever read about high red meat consumption" and we'll see if it's true keto/carnivore/ketovore.