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It's sexual coercion - aka rape.

by chromehearts 1y ago

efilife 1y ago
You have thousands of games where you murder people, brutally. Is it legal?
- mrkramer 1y ago
  If I recall correctly it has been proven that violent games do not affect young adults in negative way unless they are already mentally disturbed. There are thousands of movies that depict killing and sexual violence and nobody talks about it anymore. I think just like Gabe Newell said that videos games are more powerful medium than movies because they give you control over your character and you can shape the story how you like. That's what is bothering those "human rights" warriors. They are against games because they are such a powerful art tool.
  - roguecoder 1y ago
    It's bothering evangelicals, not "human rights warriors". They want control and power.
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snvzz 1y ago
>It's sexual coercion - aka rape. In fiction.
tmpxid2025 1y ago
Sexual coercion, if done in reality, is a horrible crime. So is shooting someone, setting fire to houses, etc etc. Games aren't reality, setting fire to a house in skyrim doesn't mean you've commit or are planning an arson and should be sent to prison. I agree that somehow "rape in a game" feels different from "shooting someone in a game". Does it feel different because of the puritanical christian culture we've been brought up in, where cops murdering people with guns is normal and celebrated, but priests raping young boys is still mostly hidden? Is it because there's some fundamental difference between the two crimes? Is getting perverse sexual pleasure criminal, but having fun shooting people in grand theft auto is okay? My opinion is that even though it feels different, it's fine. Consensual rape-play in the bedroom isn't my cup of tea, I won't do it, it gives me the ick, but people can do what they want. If those same people want to play rape games, well, it gives me the ick, but that's up to them, they and the game developers consent to this media existing, and it's fiction, just like rape-play in the bedroom is. The safe word is alt+f4 (throwaway account because obviously)
- tmtvl 1y ago
  While I agree with you I do think that it should be noted that in the West rape happens a lot more often than shootings (even with the US throwing off the average) or arson. That being said, sexual assault isn't being brought up because of its prevalence but just for shock value.
oneeyedpigeon 1y ago
Weird, because I can still buy Neil Strauss's The Game on Amazon.
swat535 1y ago
> It's sexual coercion - aka rape. We also have murder and the most horrific things, including going around and shooting unarmed civilians in GTA in Video Games.
const_cast 1y ago
Then I guess GTA is murder. There's a difference between speech about a thing, and the actual thing. The former should be legal, the latter sometimes isn't. I can make jobs about chopping people up all day. That doesn't mean I should get life in prison for murder.
tumsfestival 1y ago
Rape of who? Pixels? My god, those poor pixels are being sexually abused!

It's sexual coercion - aka rape.

efilife 1y ago

You have thousands of games where you murder people, brutally. Is it legal?

mrkramer 1y ago
If I recall correctly it has been proven that violent games do not affect young adults in negative way unless they are already mentally disturbed. There are thousands of movies that depict killing and sexual violence and nobody talks about it anymore. I think just like Gabe Newell said that videos games are more powerful medium than movies because they give you control over your character and you can shape the story how you like. That's what is bothering those "human rights" warriors. They are against games because they are such a powerful art tool.
- roguecoder 1y ago
  It's bothering evangelicals, not "human rights warriors". They want control and power.

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snvzz 1y ago

>It's sexual coercion - aka rape. In fiction.

tmpxid2025 1y ago

Sexual coercion, if done in reality, is a horrible crime. So is shooting someone, setting fire to houses, etc etc. Games aren't reality, setting fire to a house in skyrim doesn't mean you've commit or are planning an arson and should be sent to prison. I agree that somehow "rape in a game" feels different from "shooting someone in a game". Does it feel different because of the puritanical christian culture we've been brought up in, where cops murdering people with guns is normal and celebrated, but priests raping young boys is still mostly hidden? Is it because there's some fundamental difference between the two crimes? Is getting perverse sexual pleasure criminal, but having fun shooting people in grand theft auto is okay? My opinion is that even though it feels different, it's fine. Consensual rape-play in the bedroom isn't my cup of tea, I won't do it, it gives me the ick, but people can do what they want. If those same people want to play rape games, well, it gives me the ick, but that's up to them, they and the game developers consent to this media existing, and it's fiction, just like rape-play in the bedroom is. The safe word is alt+f4 (throwaway account because obviously)

tmtvl 1y ago
While I agree with you I do think that it should be noted that in the West rape happens a lot more often than shootings (even with the US throwing off the average) or arson. That being said, sexual assault isn't being brought up because of its prevalence but just for shock value.

oneeyedpigeon 1y ago

Weird, because I can still buy Neil Strauss's The Game on Amazon.

swat535 1y ago

> It's sexual coercion - aka rape. We also have murder and the most horrific things, including going around and shooting unarmed civilians in GTA in Video Games.

const_cast 1y ago

Then I guess GTA is murder. There's a difference between speech about a thing, and the actual thing. The former should be legal, the latter sometimes isn't. I can make jobs about chopping people up all day. That doesn't mean I should get life in prison for murder.

tumsfestival 1y ago

Rape of who? Pixels? My god, those poor pixels are being sexually abused!