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Well if you have a Tesla, I believe you can sit in it and it offers games to play on its iPad to kill the time.

by Quitschquat 1y ago

SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
Everytime I fill my truck up, I’m at the gas station thinking “man, I wish I could just hang out here for two hours!!”
- Quitschquat 1y ago
  I’m keeping my Tacoma forever
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    Used vehicles are about to be where it is at. The tracking, the module security lockdown, and that in a couple years particulate filter systems like DEF for diesel that everyone just loves… is coming to petrol by regulation.
- Toutouxc 1y ago
  More like 20 minutes, but ok, not everyone likes that.
  - genewitch 1y ago
    what happens when there's more people that need 20 minutes? it takes me less than five to pull up, fill up, and go. when the gas station is packed, i might have to wait 4-5 minutes for my turn. Now quadruple this. "super extra 1gigawatt charging" isn't coming to my area, potentially ever. Afaik there's two "super chargers" in my metro area, both at dealerships. i've actually never seen a Tesla charger in person.
    - matsemann 1y ago
      With home charging, I'm almost never charging anywhere else. Maybe a few times a year when doing a longer trip. I just drive, and plug the charger in some times when I get home. I literally never think about range or having to drive a detour to fill it up. But you have to do that probably weekly. And then also spend a lot of money while doing it. It seems you believe those driving EVs are "suckers", but do you realize you probably spend hours and hours more in a year going to the station and pump compared to most EV owners never having to do that in their daily life?
      - genewitch 1y ago
        what about people who live in apartment buildings or houses where they have to park on the street?
    - ZeroGravitas 1y ago
      Why is your civic infrastructure so crippled? I'm not sure if I'd trust driving over bridges or drinking water in a municipality which is incapable of installing electric plugs.
      - genewitch 1y ago
        Not everywhere on the planet is huge metros with millions of people. for instance, my nearest gas station is 2 miles away. The nearest place to actually buy fresh food is a 36 mile round trip. furthermore calling the gigawatt charging stations "electric plugs" is real disingenuous.
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    20 minutes to get you home if there is a free charger, ok. Zero to a hundred, you know that isn’t even remotely true.
    - Toutouxc 1y ago
      My cheap EV gets 200+ km of range (124 mi) from 20 minutes of charging. Again, why the hell are you talking about two hours. Why are you saying that 20 minutes gets you "home". Why are you talking about charging from 0 to 100 % when that's NOT how you charge an EV, ever. Sounds like you've never driven one.
      - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
        No. It doesn’t. Your display says that. And your display is bullshit. I work with the people that make the displays man. There are entire groups dedicated to deciding what is indefensible lies, and what “could be true under the right circumstances so we’re allowed to say/show that” > Why are you talking about charging from 0 to 100 % when that's NOT how you charge an EV, lol, go to a charging station sometime and see the people sleeping or watching tv. If it’s your primary vehicle and you want to go somewhere, you are going from 0 to 100.
        Toutouxc 1y ago
        > Your display says that. And your display is bullshit. I don't know what to tell you. I drive a MG4 with a 64 kWh battery. My average consumption is usually between 14-15 kWh/100 km (I don't drive very fast on freeways), which means that a full battery gets me a bit over 400 km, which is the actual range I can get fro the car. It charges at 135 kW for a large part of the battery capacity and 20 minutes of charging gives me more than 50 % of the capacity, hence more than 200 km. > lol, go to a charging station sometime and see the people sleeping or watching tv I live in Prague, Czech Republic, in Europe. I don't see people sleeping or watching TV at charging stations, because there's a ton of them and they're in convenient places. I have never waited for an empty spot, not a single minute. I park my car on the street, I'm entirely reliant on public infrastructure and it works well. > If it’s your primary vehicle and you want to go somewhere, you are going from 0 to 100. My EV is my only vehicle and I only charge it to 100 % when I need the battery to balance (which my car only does at 100 %), i.e once every month or so. Again, with a working charging network and a reasonably modern EV, you can just start driving and charge when necessary (for 15 minutes or so).
bhandziuk 1y ago
Your Tesla has an iPad? Or you're saying someone sitting in a car can play on an iPad if they have one?

Well if you have a Tesla, I believe you can sit in it and it offers games to play on its iPad to kill the time.

SV_BubbleTime 1y ago

Everytime I fill my truck up, I’m at the gas station thinking “man, I wish I could just hang out here for two hours!!”

Quitschquat 1y ago
I’m keeping my Tacoma forever
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  Used vehicles are about to be where it is at. The tracking, the module security lockdown, and that in a couple years particulate filter systems like DEF for diesel that everyone just loves… is coming to petrol by regulation.
Toutouxc 1y ago
More like 20 minutes, but ok, not everyone likes that.
- genewitch 1y ago
  what happens when there's more people that need 20 minutes? it takes me less than five to pull up, fill up, and go. when the gas station is packed, i might have to wait 4-5 minutes for my turn. Now quadruple this. "super extra 1gigawatt charging" isn't coming to my area, potentially ever. Afaik there's two "super chargers" in my metro area, both at dealerships. i've actually never seen a Tesla charger in person.
  - matsemann 1y ago
    With home charging, I'm almost never charging anywhere else. Maybe a few times a year when doing a longer trip. I just drive, and plug the charger in some times when I get home. I literally never think about range or having to drive a detour to fill it up. But you have to do that probably weekly. And then also spend a lot of money while doing it. It seems you believe those driving EVs are "suckers", but do you realize you probably spend hours and hours more in a year going to the station and pump compared to most EV owners never having to do that in their daily life?
    - genewitch 1y ago
      what about people who live in apartment buildings or houses where they have to park on the street?
  - ZeroGravitas 1y ago
    Why is your civic infrastructure so crippled? I'm not sure if I'd trust driving over bridges or drinking water in a municipality which is incapable of installing electric plugs.
    - genewitch 1y ago
      Not everywhere on the planet is huge metros with millions of people. for instance, my nearest gas station is 2 miles away. The nearest place to actually buy fresh food is a 36 mile round trip. furthermore calling the gigawatt charging stations "electric plugs" is real disingenuous.
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  20 minutes to get you home if there is a free charger, ok. Zero to a hundred, you know that isn’t even remotely true.
  - Toutouxc 1y ago
    My cheap EV gets 200+ km of range (124 mi) from 20 minutes of charging. Again, why the hell are you talking about two hours. Why are you saying that 20 minutes gets you "home". Why are you talking about charging from 0 to 100 % when that's NOT how you charge an EV, ever. Sounds like you've never driven one.
    - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
      No. It doesn’t. Your display says that. And your display is bullshit. I work with the people that make the displays man. There are entire groups dedicated to deciding what is indefensible lies, and what “could be true under the right circumstances so we’re allowed to say/show that” > Why are you talking about charging from 0 to 100 % when that's NOT how you charge an EV, lol, go to a charging station sometime and see the people sleeping or watching tv. If it’s your primary vehicle and you want to go somewhere, you are going from 0 to 100.
      - Toutouxc 1y ago
        > Your display says that. And your display is bullshit. I don't know what to tell you. I drive a MG4 with a 64 kWh battery. My average consumption is usually between 14-15 kWh/100 km (I don't drive very fast on freeways), which means that a full battery gets me a bit over 400 km, which is the actual range I can get fro the car. It charges at 135 kW for a large part of the battery capacity and 20 minutes of charging gives me more than 50 % of the capacity, hence more than 200 km. > lol, go to a charging station sometime and see the people sleeping or watching tv I live in Prague, Czech Republic, in Europe. I don't see people sleeping or watching TV at charging stations, because there's a ton of them and they're in convenient places. I have never waited for an empty spot, not a single minute. I park my car on the street, I'm entirely reliant on public infrastructure and it works well. > If it’s your primary vehicle and you want to go somewhere, you are going from 0 to 100. My EV is my only vehicle and I only charge it to 100 % when I need the battery to balance (which my car only does at 100 %), i.e once every month or so. Again, with a working charging network and a reasonably modern EV, you can just start driving and charge when necessary (for 15 minutes or so).

bhandziuk 1y ago

Your Tesla has an iPad? Or you're saying someone sitting in a car can play on an iPad if they have one?