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Except we've see what happens when you try to "correct" that alignment: you get wildly bigoted output. After Grok called for another Holocaust, Elon Musk said t
by jakelazaroff 1y ago
Except we've see what happens when you try to "correct" that alignment: you get wildly bigoted output. After Grok called for another Holocaust, Elon Musk said that it's "surprisingly hard to avoid both woke libtard cuck and mechahitler" [1]. The Occam's Razor explanation is that there's just not that much ideological space between an "anti-woke" model and a literal Nazi!
[1] https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1944132781745090819 https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1944132781745090819
- taneq 1y agoThere’s a simpler explanation, to do with the veracity of that tweet.
- jakelazaroff 1y agoTrue, the simplest explanation is that Elon Musk is actually trying to create MechaHitler :)
- daveidol 1y agoOr there’s not sufficient published material in that space because everyone is afraid of being attacked and called a Nazi for simply having a dissenting opinion (except for actual neo Nazis who don’t care)
- bakuninsbart 1y agoCould you provide a prompt where the popular LLMs provide false or biased output based on "wokeness"?
- landl0rd 1y agoI mean this is obviously a false dichotomy. A few years ago I could have said that when you let bots interact with users you always got Tay. I refuse to believe that our options are a bot programmed to sound like the guardian or one that wants to rape will stancil. And I do not think that failing to find a correct balance means we should stop trying to improve the level of balance we can achieve.
- jakelazaroff 1y agoMy point is that "anti-woke" or whatever is not balanced. We've constructed statistical models based on enormous corpora of English text, and those models keep telling us that there is not really a statistical difference between whatever Elon Musk is trying to create and MechaHitler! I'm not saying this is conclusive evidence, but I am saying it's our best inference from the data we have so far.
- zmgsabst 1y agoOr that rhetoric like yours is common, so LLMs conflate unrelated ideas — such as opposition to neo-Marxist philosophy and Nazism.
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- jakelazaroff 1y agoNazism and anti-Marxism are absolutely not unrelated! And that's not just rhetoric like mine, either: for example, the hero image on the Britannica article "Were the Nazis Socialists?" is a banner at Nazi parade that reads "Death to Marxism". [1] That doesn't mean that anti-Marxists are all Nazis, or vice versa. But the claim that they're totally unrelated is not correct at all. [1] https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
- zmgsabst 1y agoI’m still having trouble finding the gap between fascism and socialism, when reading their manifesto. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_Manifesto > That doesn't mean that anti-Marxists are all Nazis, or vice versa. But the claim that they're totally unrelated is not correct at all. This is a heavily propagandized topic — and the conflating of, eg, American liberal capitalist opposition to Marxism as “Nazi” is both a result of that and modern dishonest rhetoric. That rhetoric confuses LLMs.