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"We're going to write paragraphs about how cool this project is but also it's all on the LAN and it's invite-only so don't ask"

bongodongobob 1y ago
I don't see how this is any different from someone sharing a homelab setup or something.
- jasonm23 1y ago
  That'll be because essentially it's no different.
thoroughburro 1y ago
“A friend group with an idea to share”
omnicognate 1y ago
Read the manifesto, linked there and in the comments here. Its entire membership is 19 close friends and they won't let anyone new join who hasn't already been friends with one of them for at least 10 years. They're just sharing the idea because they like what they've built and think other people could have fun building something similar. It's like a treehouse enthusiast putting some pictures of the cool treehouse they've made on their website. It's not an invitation to come and hang out in it. I'm tempted to make one of these, TBH.
- fc417fc802 1y ago
  > It's like a treehouse enthusiast putting some pictures of the cool treehouse they've made on their website. At which point you might (reasonably IMO) complain that you're rather curious what use they find for said treehouse in practice.
  - omnicognate 1y ago
    I suppose, if you're the sort of person whose response to finding pictures of someone's treehouse on the web is to complain there are no pictures of people playing games in it.
    - fc417fc802 1y ago
      Context is important. If the pictures are captioned "check out this awesome treehouse I built" then yeah I don't expect anything further. Whereas if they are captioned "this treehouse is my absolute favorite place to hang out" or "everyone should build one of these for themselves" or "building this treehouse saved my relationship" or whatever then I am going to find myself wondering why that might be. Like if I tell you that Python is just the best language ever and you ought to be using it for approximately everything you do because it will improve your life or society or perhaps even the universe as a whole, might you not wonder _why_ I think that?
      - omnicognate 1y ago
        I don't know why we're even having this debate, but this thread is in response to someone literally complaining they didn't say what games they play on it (as if they necessarily even do). They've given plenty of technical info about it - certainly more than they're obliged to, which is none - and anyone who would do something like this is going to do it their own way anyway. I'm clearly in the target audience as I'm now considering doing something like this. The page gives me all the information I need or want.
        fc417fc802 1y ago
        Probably because I'm in the same camp as the person you originally responded to. It's an intriguing project and clearly a lot of effort has gone into it so I'm left wondering about how it's being used. If I were going to build something similar (as they advocate) what might I use it for? > around half of the people on the LAN have thermal receipt printers with open access, for printing out quips or jokes on each other’s counters. > there’s a 3-node IRC network, exotic hardware to gawk at, radios galore, a NAS storage swap, LAN only email, and even a SIP phone network of “redphones”. The above is from the linked essay about the current sordid state of the internet. It gives a few ideas for fun pastimes but honestly not a lot. Gaming with close friends is probably the majority of what I'd use a LAN setup like this for so naturally I'm left curious what I might be missing out on.
- hammyhavoc 1y ago
  I didn't think there were others doing this out there, but yes, do this for sure. It's a lot of fun. Write about it too. I'm going to write up ours.

bongodongobob 1y ago

I don't see how this is any different from someone sharing a homelab setup or something.

jasonm23 1y ago
That'll be because essentially it's no different.

thoroughburro 1y ago

“A friend group with an idea to share”

omnicognate 1y ago

Read the manifesto, linked there and in the comments here. Its entire membership is 19 close friends and they won't let anyone new join who hasn't already been friends with one of them for at least 10 years. They're just sharing the idea because they like what they've built and think other people could have fun building something similar. It's like a treehouse enthusiast putting some pictures of the cool treehouse they've made on their website. It's not an invitation to come and hang out in it. I'm tempted to make one of these, TBH.

fc417fc802 1y ago
> It's like a treehouse enthusiast putting some pictures of the cool treehouse they've made on their website. At which point you might (reasonably IMO) complain that you're rather curious what use they find for said treehouse in practice.
- omnicognate 1y ago
  I suppose, if you're the sort of person whose response to finding pictures of someone's treehouse on the web is to complain there are no pictures of people playing games in it.
  - fc417fc802 1y ago
    Context is important. If the pictures are captioned "check out this awesome treehouse I built" then yeah I don't expect anything further. Whereas if they are captioned "this treehouse is my absolute favorite place to hang out" or "everyone should build one of these for themselves" or "building this treehouse saved my relationship" or whatever then I am going to find myself wondering why that might be. Like if I tell you that Python is just the best language ever and you ought to be using it for approximately everything you do because it will improve your life or society or perhaps even the universe as a whole, might you not wonder _why_ I think that?
    - omnicognate 1y ago
      I don't know why we're even having this debate, but this thread is in response to someone literally complaining they didn't say what games they play on it (as if they necessarily even do). They've given plenty of technical info about it - certainly more than they're obliged to, which is none - and anyone who would do something like this is going to do it their own way anyway. I'm clearly in the target audience as I'm now considering doing something like this. The page gives me all the information I need or want.
      - fc417fc802 1y ago
        Probably because I'm in the same camp as the person you originally responded to. It's an intriguing project and clearly a lot of effort has gone into it so I'm left wondering about how it's being used. If I were going to build something similar (as they advocate) what might I use it for? > around half of the people on the LAN have thermal receipt printers with open access, for printing out quips or jokes on each other’s counters. > there’s a 3-node IRC network, exotic hardware to gawk at, radios galore, a NAS storage swap, LAN only email, and even a SIP phone network of “redphones”. The above is from the linked essay about the current sordid state of the internet. It gives a few ideas for fun pastimes but honestly not a lot. Gaming with close friends is probably the majority of what I'd use a LAN setup like this for so naturally I'm left curious what I might be missing out on.
hammyhavoc 1y ago
I didn't think there were others doing this out there, but yes, do this for sure. It's a lot of fun. Write about it too. I'm going to write up ours.