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> It's another attack from within. The amount of fearmongering and scaremongering in this thread is literally off the charts. No, the weather service isn't be

by Alupis 1y ago

> It's another attack from within. The amount of fearmongering and scaremongering in this thread is literally off the charts. No, the weather service isn't being shut down... one private organization decides to charge for API access (you know, to make money) and immediately you folks go straight into sabotage and end-of-the-world conspiracy theories. It took me all of 3 seconds to find several mentions to the big ooga-booga, "project 2025". The article is literally about a private organization and you folks go right into the conspiracies... it's exhausting. At this point, I think I have to assume some of you actually enjoy being afraid. Some sort of coping mechanism for losing an election and not getting your way for 4 years...

Spooky23 1y ago
Accuweather spent a lot of money lobbying to charge for NWS data years ago. It’s not exactly a secret or a conspiracy to assume they wouldn’t like to replace free weather data with their own subscriptions.
- Alupis 1y ago
  So what does a private organization deciding to charge for their own API access have to do with the government??? Get your weather data from NWS if you want... serving an API to anyone/everyone costs money, and AccuWeather apparently decided enough was enough. AccuWeather has no obligation to give you free resources. Same as Reddit, same as Twitter, same as so many companies before them. Oh no, that's right. It must be a conspiracy to end the world! Here's the actual NWS API[1], you know... the free one that's not going away nor is charging for access. [1] https://www.weather.gov/documentation/services-web-api https://www.weather.gov/documentation/services-web-api
  - macintux 1y ago
    > the free one that's not going away nor is charging for access. Care to make a wager? I'll gladly/sadly wager $100 with some broker that the NWS weather data will no longer be freely available by July 1 2026.
  - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
    6 months ago were you saying "there's no way he'll do broad tariffs" or "there's no way he'll do a mass deportation campaign?"
    - Alupis 1y ago
      How many tariffs have been realized? Very few... Deporting known criminals and gang affiliates isn't a "mass deportation campaign". Don't allow your flavor of politics to cloud your world view. And... you've interpreted my writings incorrectly. I've been hoping for reciprocal tariffs most of my life...
      - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
        Not true, there’s been a huge jump in deportation of people with no criminal record. You’re right though there has been only a marginal increase in deportations specifically of criminals. https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convict... The effective tariff rate on American consumers is above 20%… https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/state-us-tariffs-july-23-2025 https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/state-us-tariffs-july-23... Just because there can be MORE deportations and MORE tariffs doesn’t mean he’s not doing them lol. You’ve done a fine job of revealing your motivated reasoning anyhow. Clearly one shouldn’t take your predictions on NWS seriously.
jfengel 1y ago
So, you missed the part where "project 2025" is about the government ending access to this information? And that this "private organization" is one of the supporters of "project 2025"? This is not hidden. This is happening in public. And yes, the worst hasn't happened yet -- the government removing access to data that has long been free -- but if it does, would you agree that it is a bad thing? If you think that the government should indeed do that, then this isn't a conspiracy theory; it's just saying out loud that this is a thing you're encouraging the government to do. If you think the government should not do that, then you should consider the evidence that it is in fact happening.
- Alupis 1y ago
  > This is not hidden. This is happening in public. Yes, a private organization has decided to charge for access to their resources, aka their API. What on earth does that have to do with the government and this boogey-man "project 2025"??? Step off your soap box for a moment and contemplate what you are saying. It's lunacy at it's finest... Was it "project 2025" that made Reddit charge for their API access? What about Twitter? Booga-booga!
- LordDragonfang 1y ago
  > this "private organization" is one of the supporters of "project 2025" This was misinformation on the part of project 2025. https://www.accuweather.com/en/press/accuweather-does-not-support-project-2025-plan-to-fully-commercializing-nws-operations-noaa-has-critical-role-in-american-weather-enterprise/1670156#google_vignette https://www.accuweather.com/en/press/accuweather-does-not-su... > AccuWeather Chief Executive Officer Steven R. Smith said “AccuWeather does not agree with the view, and AccuWeather has not suggested, that the National Weather Service (NWS) should fully commercialize its operations. The authors of ‘Project 2025’ used us as an example of forecasts and warnings provided by private sector companies without the knowledge or permission of AccuWeather.” Project 2025 is fundamentally a propaganda organization which has a symbiotic relationship with both the right- (through populism) and left- (through fear-selling) wing media (social and traditional). You should be immediately critical of anything said by or about them (and fact-check it), because a lot of it is reported uncritically and does not actual represent reality.

by Alupis 1y ago

Spooky23 1y ago

Accuweather spent a lot of money lobbying to charge for NWS data years ago. It’s not exactly a secret or a conspiracy to assume they wouldn’t like to replace free weather data with their own subscriptions.

Alupis 1y ago
So what does a private organization deciding to charge for their own API access have to do with the government??? Get your weather data from NWS if you want... serving an API to anyone/everyone costs money, and AccuWeather apparently decided enough was enough. AccuWeather has no obligation to give you free resources. Same as Reddit, same as Twitter, same as so many companies before them. Oh no, that's right. It must be a conspiracy to end the world! Here's the actual NWS API[1], you know... the free one that's not going away nor is charging for access. [1] https://www.weather.gov/documentation/services-web-api https://www.weather.gov/documentation/services-web-api
- macintux 1y ago
  > the free one that's not going away nor is charging for access. Care to make a wager? I'll gladly/sadly wager $100 with some broker that the NWS weather data will no longer be freely available by July 1 2026.
- sorcerer-mar 1y ago
  6 months ago were you saying "there's no way he'll do broad tariffs" or "there's no way he'll do a mass deportation campaign?"
  - Alupis 1y ago
    How many tariffs have been realized? Very few... Deporting known criminals and gang affiliates isn't a "mass deportation campaign". Don't allow your flavor of politics to cloud your world view. And... you've interpreted my writings incorrectly. I've been hoping for reciprocal tariffs most of my life...
    - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
      Not true, there’s been a huge jump in deportation of people with no criminal record. You’re right though there has been only a marginal increase in deportations specifically of criminals. https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convict... The effective tariff rate on American consumers is above 20%… https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/state-us-tariffs-july-23-2025 https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/state-us-tariffs-july-23... Just because there can be MORE deportations and MORE tariffs doesn’t mean he’s not doing them lol. You’ve done a fine job of revealing your motivated reasoning anyhow. Clearly one shouldn’t take your predictions on NWS seriously.

jfengel 1y ago

So, you missed the part where "project 2025" is about the government ending access to this information? And that this "private organization" is one of the supporters of "project 2025"? This is not hidden. This is happening in public. And yes, the worst hasn't happened yet -- the government removing access to data that has long been free -- but if it does, would you agree that it is a bad thing? If you think that the government should indeed do that, then this isn't a conspiracy theory; it's just saying out loud that this is a thing you're encouraging the government to do. If you think the government should not do that, then you should consider the evidence that it is in fact happening.

Alupis 1y ago
> This is not hidden. This is happening in public. Yes, a private organization has decided to charge for access to their resources, aka their API. What on earth does that have to do with the government and this boogey-man "project 2025"??? Step off your soap box for a moment and contemplate what you are saying. It's lunacy at it's finest... Was it "project 2025" that made Reddit charge for their API access? What about Twitter? Booga-booga!
LordDragonfang 1y ago
> this "private organization" is one of the supporters of "project 2025" This was misinformation on the part of project 2025. https://www.accuweather.com/en/press/accuweather-does-not-support-project-2025-plan-to-fully-commercializing-nws-operations-noaa-has-critical-role-in-american-weather-enterprise/1670156#google_vignette https://www.accuweather.com/en/press/accuweather-does-not-su... > AccuWeather Chief Executive Officer Steven R. Smith said “AccuWeather does not agree with the view, and AccuWeather has not suggested, that the National Weather Service (NWS) should fully commercialize its operations. The authors of ‘Project 2025’ used us as an example of forecasts and warnings provided by private sector companies without the knowledge or permission of AccuWeather.” Project 2025 is fundamentally a propaganda organization which has a symbiotic relationship with both the right- (through populism) and left- (through fear-selling) wing media (social and traditional). You should be immediately critical of anything said by or about them (and fact-check it), because a lot of it is reported uncritically and does not actual represent reality.