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Insanely misinformed. What kind of tech do you imagine is needed? Have you heard of Hadrian's Wall? The Great Wall of China? Or more generally: forts, outpost

Insanely misinformed. What kind of tech do you imagine is needed? Have you heard of Hadrian's Wall? The Great Wall of China? Or more generally: forts, outposts, coastal batteries, scouts, patrols?

joecool1029 1y ago
Do you think they will be shocked to find out color wasn't invented in the 1900's?
- bigfishrunning 1y ago
  It has always existed in the merry old land of Oz.
9rx 1y ago
> What kind of tech do you imagine is needed? Agriculture, at very least. Before we created that tech you'd be way too busy trying to find something to eat to have time to stand around defending artificial borders. 1900 BCE mightn't be perfectly accurate, but close enough for a stupid comment on the internet.
- codetrotter 1y ago
  > 1900 BCE Nothing in the comment that we are talking about indicates that "pre-1900" is referring to 1900 BCE. It sounds squarely like it's referring to 1900 AD to me. Which is why people are saying it's ridiculous.
  - 9rx 1y ago
    > It sounds squarely like it's referring to 1900 AD to me. What part of "If you moved from one place to another, you were mostly at the whims of thieves and pirates." suggests 1900 CE to you? Have you never looked at a history book?
    - codetrotter 1y ago
      There was plenty of pirates around still in the 1800s AD. Aka "pre-1900" AD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy
      - 9rx 1y ago
        There are still plenty of pirates around to this very day; a "significant issue" according to your own link. Despite that, the aforementioned statement doesn't make me think it has anything to do with today. What, specifically, makes you think it has something to do with the time leading up to 1900 CE rather than 1900 BCE?
        codetrotter 1y ago
        > What, specifically, makes you think it has something to do with the time leading up to 1900 CE rather than 1900 BCE Normally when someone says "1900" they are referring to 1900 AD. Unless BCE had already been mentioned, which here it had not. And if they were referring to 1900 BCE they normally would specifically say 1900 BCE. That's why. And furthermore, the parent comment above the one talking about "pre-1900" was talking about modern passports. Why would anyone immediately jump from modern passports to 1900 BCE? That don't make no sense at all. Jumping to 1900 AD however, that does make sense. You see?
        9rx 1y ago
        Absent of any other context one might reasonably assume "1990" Refers to 1900 CE. But we have additional context, such as: "Cities had guards.", "you were mostly at the whims of thieves and pirates." What in that speaks to 1900 CE over 1900 BCE? There is evidence of pirates in both time periods, so that feature alone isn't telling. But the context doesn't end with that feature in a vacuum, does it?

Insanely misinformed. What kind of tech do you imagine is needed? Have you heard of Hadrian's Wall? The Great Wall of China? Or more generally: forts, outposts, coastal batteries, scouts, patrols?

joecool1029 1y ago

Do you think they will be shocked to find out color wasn't invented in the 1900's?

bigfishrunning 1y ago
It has always existed in the merry old land of Oz.

9rx 1y ago

> What kind of tech do you imagine is needed? Agriculture, at very least. Before we created that tech you'd be way too busy trying to find something to eat to have time to stand around defending artificial borders. 1900 BCE mightn't be perfectly accurate, but close enough for a stupid comment on the internet.

codetrotter 1y ago
> 1900 BCE Nothing in the comment that we are talking about indicates that "pre-1900" is referring to 1900 BCE. It sounds squarely like it's referring to 1900 AD to me. Which is why people are saying it's ridiculous.
- 9rx 1y ago
  > It sounds squarely like it's referring to 1900 AD to me. What part of "If you moved from one place to another, you were mostly at the whims of thieves and pirates." suggests 1900 CE to you? Have you never looked at a history book?
  - codetrotter 1y ago
    There was plenty of pirates around still in the 1800s AD. Aka "pre-1900" AD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy
    - 9rx 1y ago
      There are still plenty of pirates around to this very day; a "significant issue" according to your own link. Despite that, the aforementioned statement doesn't make me think it has anything to do with today. What, specifically, makes you think it has something to do with the time leading up to 1900 CE rather than 1900 BCE?
      - codetrotter 1y ago
        > What, specifically, makes you think it has something to do with the time leading up to 1900 CE rather than 1900 BCE Normally when someone says "1900" they are referring to 1900 AD. Unless BCE had already been mentioned, which here it had not. And if they were referring to 1900 BCE they normally would specifically say 1900 BCE. That's why. And furthermore, the parent comment above the one talking about "pre-1900" was talking about modern passports. Why would anyone immediately jump from modern passports to 1900 BCE? That don't make no sense at all. Jumping to 1900 AD however, that does make sense. You see?
        9rx 1y ago
        Absent of any other context one might reasonably assume "1990" Refers to 1900 CE. But we have additional context, such as: "Cities had guards.", "you were mostly at the whims of thieves and pirates." What in that speaks to 1900 CE over 1900 BCE? There is evidence of pirates in both time periods, so that feature alone isn't telling. But the context doesn't end with that feature in a vacuum, does it?