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The whole thing is a mess. I drive through a spot with a lot of RVs in Seattle. I’ve seen people come out of an RV, smash a driver’s window at a stoplight, and

by tyleo 1y ago

The whole thing is a mess. I drive through a spot with a lot of RVs in Seattle. I’ve seen people come out of an RV, smash a driver’s window at a stoplight, and proceed to throw something which looked like chili powder in his face. I don’t want people like that by me. Yet RVs are an incredible cheap housing option. I would simultaneously advocate for opening up a space to park a bunch of RVs that these folks could live... just not by me :/ So I really don’t know what to do. Just a few bad apples can ruin public safety in a community for everyone else. I don’t know that we can both provide safety for home owners and the housing option for non home owners :/

DangitBobby 1y ago
The safety issues you are worried about would apply regardless of whether these people are allowed to continue living in their RVs.
- lotsofpulp 1y ago
  Not allowing people to live in RVs by you seems to reduce the problem.
  - DangitBobby 1y ago
    Same with tents or other affordable housing, though. So again, nothing really to do with RVs.
  - tyleo 1y ago
    Exactly. That’s the damning thing about the issue. I want people to be able to live in RVs. I don’t want them by me because of my lived experience. I can see how that’s iterated across the population. No clear avenue for success.
- tyleo 1y ago
  I don’t think that’s true. The RVs are gone and they put huge concrete blocks in the area so they can’t park any more. It’s much safer now. That fixed my local problem. Obviously the people moved somewhere else though.
supertrope 1y ago
The proportion of troublemakers is much higher in the very low socioeconomic status cohort. Heavily policing public spaces is too expensive so instead social moats are erected. House prices rise to unaffordable levels and this is cheered on by current residents and politicians. Nice neighborhoods are not connected with public transit and are inconveniently located so only residents will drive there. In New York Columbia University Public Safety officers escort any non-community members off their campus.
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by tyleo 1y ago

DangitBobby 1y ago

The safety issues you are worried about would apply regardless of whether these people are allowed to continue living in their RVs.

lotsofpulp 1y ago
Not allowing people to live in RVs by you seems to reduce the problem.
- DangitBobby 1y ago
  Same with tents or other affordable housing, though. So again, nothing really to do with RVs.
- tyleo 1y ago
  Exactly. That’s the damning thing about the issue. I want people to be able to live in RVs. I don’t want them by me because of my lived experience. I can see how that’s iterated across the population. No clear avenue for success.
tyleo 1y ago
I don’t think that’s true. The RVs are gone and they put huge concrete blocks in the area so they can’t park any more. It’s much safer now. That fixed my local problem. Obviously the people moved somewhere else though.

supertrope 1y ago

The proportion of troublemakers is much higher in the very low socioeconomic status cohort. Heavily policing public spaces is too expensive so instead social moats are erected. House prices rise to unaffordable levels and this is cheered on by current residents and politicians. Nice neighborhoods are not connected with public transit and are inconveniently located so only residents will drive there. In New York Columbia University Public Safety officers escort any non-community members off their campus.

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