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> Do you realise how foolish that sounds? The irony. Just as foolish as these ways are to prevent violence. These criminals might switch to forks, better get
by johnisgood 1y ago
> Do you realise how foolish that sounds?
The irony.
Just as foolish as these ways are to prevent violence.
These criminals might switch to forks, better get your Government get one step ahead of them.
And no, you cannot buy kitchen knives if you are under a certain age, it is ought to prevent a lot of crimes, I am sure.
- olddustytrail 1y agoI see, so when you said "You cannot buy a kitchen knife" it's in the same way as if you live in the USA "You can't drive a car".
- johnisgood 1y agoNot quite, because they prohibited this purchase to prevent "knife crime".
- subscribed 1y agoWhat do you mean? I cna buy kitchen knives in IKEA or literally any supermarket or online shop. Care to explain?
- johnisgood 1y agoI think you've lost the plot. I did say "under age", in fact, I was called out for not having been specific in my initial message, to which I said that the two are not comparable because the prohibition of selling knives for people underaged happened at the time they were starting to fight "knife crime".
- subscribed 1y agoIf you were to carry sharpened pencil and stopped by police claimed it's for self defense, you might get arrested: https://www.askthe.police.uk/faq/?id=fefeb701-3a75-ed11-81ac-6045bd0e726f https://www.askthe.police.uk/faq/?id=fefeb701-3a75-ed11-81ac... No spray, no airgun, no folding mace, absolutely nothing can be used in self defense. Except for the alarm.
- johnisgood 1y agoCriminals are not known for telling the truth, however.
- giantg2 1y agoThe part that baffles me is that there is a right to self defense that the courts seem to acknowledge, that some cases find a person justified in using a weapon/tool that just happens to be at their disposal at the time of an attack, but having a similar tool/weapon for the purpose of defense is not allowable, even something as simple as spray.
- hluska 1y agoIn most countries, the default is whether the person had a lawful reason to be carrying the weapon used and that the defense is proportional to the attack. There’s nothing insane about that - there’s zero reason to arm yourself and millions of reasons not to.
- giantg2 1y ago"whether the person had a lawful reason to be carrying the weapon used" But that's the point - if the courts have found that defense is lawful, then it becomes a question of why it's possession (not even use and proportionality) would not be. Then you end up in a weird state where people can make up reasons to have a hammer or something else on them rather than have something potentially more reasonable/effective like pepper spray. Allowing some limited non-lethal tool seems reasonable if defense is actually something to support.
- CalRobert 1y agoWhy isn’t self defence a reason?
- Nursie 1y agoBecause you’re then routinely going about the place armed, and more likely to be the cause of violence or escalation. In the wake of the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff I remember Americans saying that going armed to a protest (not just that guy but others) was reasonable and routine because you might need to defend yourself if things go bad. In much of the rest of the west the general idea is that if you’re going somewhere you think you might need a weapon - you probably shouldn’t go.