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I try to use KDE every 3-4 years and always come back to GNOME (which is bad in its own way) It's still, to this day, full of growing-pains-bugs, so every time

by graynk 1y ago

I try to use KDE every 3-4 years and always come back to GNOME (which is bad in its own way) It's still, to this day, full of growing-pains-bugs, so every time a die from a thousand papercuts. I use NVIDIA+Wayland though and a lot of issues stem from that. Still, GNOME behaves better for me

jimmaswell 1y ago
What exactly bothers you in KDE? I've used it on a bunch of Gentoo installations this year with only the more minor consternations expected of a Linux desktop like changing default shortcuts. As a side note, getting to wobbly windows has become a milestone of a Gentoo installation for me now - GPU driver has to be functioning for compositing, so by that point the system is largely functional. Feels like a rewarding treat at the end - it's a trivial graphical task on any modern hardware but it still feels like a fun flex after growing up with Pentium 4-esque workstations that couldn't handle KDE at all.
- graynk 1y ago
  Somehow I keep hitting what I call "z-index issues". Examples: just for one frame I will see a background window drawn on top of everything else. Or a single line of pixels in Konsole will show me my desktop wallpaper (instead of being correctly half-transparent and showing the window underneath). Or only a random portion of the background window will get drawn on top of another for no reason whatsoever. My other gripes this time around also include: 1. Inability to make my secondary monitor static, while the main one gets to switch between virtual desktops, which is my preferred way of working 2. I couldn't find a good screenshot tool that would be able to capture rectangular sections of the screen on Wayland (AND worked with scaling), besides the built-in one, and I hated the built-in one because it insisted on opening its own window every time and I couldn't find a way to make it just silently take a screenshot and put it in the buffer. 3. Probably something else
freedomben 1y ago
Same. I like much of the philosophy behind KDE, but every few years or so when I try it I'll hit something (or more typically, a series of things) until I reach a point where I just go back to Gnome. When AI gets to a point where I can just have it fork Gnome and make the changes I want to it without a large effort from me, it will be a momentous occasion :-)

by graynk 1y ago

jimmaswell 1y ago

What exactly bothers you in KDE? I've used it on a bunch of Gentoo installations this year with only the more minor consternations expected of a Linux desktop like changing default shortcuts. As a side note, getting to wobbly windows has become a milestone of a Gentoo installation for me now - GPU driver has to be functioning for compositing, so by that point the system is largely functional. Feels like a rewarding treat at the end - it's a trivial graphical task on any modern hardware but it still feels like a fun flex after growing up with Pentium 4-esque workstations that couldn't handle KDE at all.

graynk 1y ago
Somehow I keep hitting what I call "z-index issues". Examples: just for one frame I will see a background window drawn on top of everything else. Or a single line of pixels in Konsole will show me my desktop wallpaper (instead of being correctly half-transparent and showing the window underneath). Or only a random portion of the background window will get drawn on top of another for no reason whatsoever. My other gripes this time around also include: 1. Inability to make my secondary monitor static, while the main one gets to switch between virtual desktops, which is my preferred way of working 2. I couldn't find a good screenshot tool that would be able to capture rectangular sections of the screen on Wayland (AND worked with scaling), besides the built-in one, and I hated the built-in one because it insisted on opening its own window every time and I couldn't find a way to make it just silently take a screenshot and put it in the buffer. 3. Probably something else

freedomben 1y ago

Same. I like much of the philosophy behind KDE, but every few years or so when I try it I'll hit something (or more typically, a series of things) until I reach a point where I just go back to Gnome. When AI gets to a point where I can just have it fork Gnome and make the changes I want to it without a large effort from me, it will be a momentous occasion :-)