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Uber should let men drivers and riders request to avoid being paired with women and other genders
by startupsfail 1y ago
Uber should let men drivers and riders request to avoid being paired with women and other genders
- itsalotoffun 1y agoThis is what being part of the problem looks like. Not ok.
- cindyllm 1y ago[dead]
- majikaja 1y agoIf men don't want to be around women out of fear of being accused of something I think that should also be respected.
- zahlman 1y agoPart of what problem? The problem of expecting men and women to be treated fairly, according to the same rules, without special privileges for one or the other?
- Forgeties79 1y agoThis feels like another flavor of "All Lives Matter" and is equally tone deaf.
- gruez 1y agoBecause it's only discrimination if you're doing it against the oppressed gender? I don't think intent is to have that as a feature that someone actually uses, it's to show the absurdity of it if the roles are reversed.
- Forgeties79 1y agoBut it’s not absurd and systems like that have to consider power dynamics before declaring “reverse discrimination”
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- general1726 1y agoIt either is discrimination or it is not. Power dynamics plays no role.
- Mawr 1y agoThere is no such thing as “reverse discrimination”. It's just discrimination.
- Forgeties79 1y agoI agree, reverse discrimination is not a thing, which is why it’s ridiculous when conservative politicians throw around the term as they dismantle various programs in schools and the workplace. I’m pointing it out and highlighting the absurdity of those assertions.
- zahlman 1y ago> I agree, reverse discrimination is not a thing, which is why it’s ridiculous when conservative politicians throw around the term They don't throw that term around. They correctly call out discrimination that happens to go in an opposite direction from what you find politically convenient. People in your camp invented, probably unknowingly, the "reverse" terminology, because your narrative requires the premise that "discrimination" can definitionally only negatively impact certain groups of people. Which is how and why you can defend the other instances as "not a thing", even when you are shown proof of them occurring — they just don't fit your redefined terms. It is the same logic as "you can't be sexist against men", used to deny the sexism inherent in even the clearest situations. The framing is itself sexist — as it supposes that men are an inferior group not worthy of the philosophical protection of the term, nor of recognition of real and obvious harm inflicted upon them because they are men. (I have even seen attempts to spin such harms as primarily affecting women.) "Dismantling various programs" only has anything to do with discrimination where those programs are actually discriminatory. I have seen much dismantling of "programs" by conservatives that I strongly disagreed with, but not on those grounds.
- zahlman 1y agoYou know that some men have been sexually abused by women, yes? Is their trauma not valid? When I was a child, I was taught that expecting men and women to receive equal protection of the law, and equal rights under the law, was a fundamental principle of feminism. Now I am simultaneously told by some feminists that it is "tone-deaf", while other feminists insist to me that feminism is not about women receiving special privileges that men don't have. The proposed policy is a special privilege being extended to women and not to men. (And this is without even considering how transgender status intersects with the policy.)
- startupsfail 1y agoFeminism, like other -isms (communism, etc) are misaligned at the core. I'd say, feminism would be best to be erased, like other -isms.
- Minor49er 1y agoI don't think self-driving vehicles are widespread enough to make this happen
- AlecSchueler 1y agoThe threat factor from other men is the highest.
- zahlman 1y agoIf you believe this, then the logical extension of the policy is "men should not be allowed to use Uber". That isn't exactly arguing against the point being made. Discrimination is discrimination.