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This is so typical. "As a man..." There are countless stories of women being harassed from uber drivers, lyft drivers, door dash delivery people, etc... This is

This is so typical. "As a man..." There are countless stories of women being harassed from uber drivers, lyft drivers, door dash delivery people, etc... This is the sad reality we live in. I'm glad the women in your life haven't experienced this or if they have they are able to manage it and not have it effect them. That is legit a great thing. However, to force the women who have trauma from this to experience it again seems cruel. I don't know what the word is for this, but it's a very common view online. It seems like a deliberate dismissal of reality in favor of some ideal world that doesn't exist.

shafyy 1y ago
Are you a female? Have you talked to females about this? I have, and what I wrote above is their point of view. I used to think like you before I had many conversations with women in my life about this very topic.
- gchamonlive 1y ago
  I'm sorry but that experience is still anectodal and doesn't invalidate whatsoever the negative experiences of others. Or you mean to say that just because you talked to females in your close proximity that the reality must be like that for everyone?
  - shafyy 1y ago
    Of course it's anectodal. And no, I am not saying that reality is like this for everyone. I am saying that many men, who have not talked to women about these topics, have a false assumption. That there are many women who do not want separate bathrooms or separate taxi drivers, even though they might sometimes feel unsafe with men. Obviously, there are women who will argue for and against.
    - gchamonlive 1y ago
      Which is why giving the option for those who want and need this separation is important. It's also important to take culture into account. In Japan there are separate metro wagons just for women because sexual abuse there is rampant.
- thinkingtoilet 1y ago
  Yes. And Uber has too believe it or not. So the few women in your life are fine without this, why are you so happy to ignore other women's thoughts? Is this some grand conspiracy from the woke mob? What it the end game here in your eyes?
anthk 1y ago
Sexual drive because of nudity ends when I change my clothes at beaches with my female partner and her friend like nothing (we are in Europe).
- shafyy 1y ago
  Yes, or if you go into a sauna which are nude and mixed gender in many European countries.

shafyy 1y ago

Are you a female? Have you talked to females about this? I have, and what I wrote above is their point of view. I used to think like you before I had many conversations with women in my life about this very topic.

gchamonlive 1y ago
I'm sorry but that experience is still anectodal and doesn't invalidate whatsoever the negative experiences of others. Or you mean to say that just because you talked to females in your close proximity that the reality must be like that for everyone?
- shafyy 1y ago
  Of course it's anectodal. And no, I am not saying that reality is like this for everyone. I am saying that many men, who have not talked to women about these topics, have a false assumption. That there are many women who do not want separate bathrooms or separate taxi drivers, even though they might sometimes feel unsafe with men. Obviously, there are women who will argue for and against.
  - gchamonlive 1y ago
    Which is why giving the option for those who want and need this separation is important. It's also important to take culture into account. In Japan there are separate metro wagons just for women because sexual abuse there is rampant.
thinkingtoilet 1y ago
Yes. And Uber has too believe it or not. So the few women in your life are fine without this, why are you so happy to ignore other women's thoughts? Is this some grand conspiracy from the woke mob? What it the end game here in your eyes?

anthk 1y ago

Sexual drive because of nudity ends when I change my clothes at beaches with my female partner and her friend like nothing (we are in Europe).

shafyy 1y ago
Yes, or if you go into a sauna which are nude and mixed gender in many European countries.