the thing is California Forever already wasn't that ambitious to begin with. "a medium-dense city with high walkability with less crime and cleaner than SF" is

the thing is California Forever already wasn't that ambitious to begin with. "a medium-dense city with high walkability with less crime and cleaner than SF" is kinda... boring. a startup city should stimulate your imagination, should try some weird new idea what a city could be, but this was just a safe real estate project (the risky thing was just overcoming regulation and local resistance, on which they ultimately failed)