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Huh??? Have you actually tried talking to non-tech people? Customers hate software updates. Especially the kind that change the design for no reason and/or brea

Huh??? Have you actually tried talking to non-tech people? Customers hate software updates. Especially the kind that change the design for no reason and/or break their established muscle memory by rearranging the UI layout. And third-party app developers hate OS updates too, especially, again, the kind that change the UI design. Apple is the most expensive company in the world so the cost of these redesigns is a rounding error for them. For smaller app developers, this incurs significant extra costs for the only reason of Apple just feeling like it.

npteljes 1y ago
Insult aside, consider the following. Are almost all companies doing this much effort just because of some rouge elements within the company, or are they doing it because they see a direct benefit from it with regarding to sales? What people tell, and how people act are two very different things. For multiple reasons too, I'm not meaning this in a malicious way at all. Feedback is very useful, but needs careful interpretation. Tangential, but this is why telemetry works very well: it paints a more realistic picture compared to what people report.
- hobs 1y ago
  Competition forces innovation, but in the absence of real innovation you get this crap. Change for changes sake. Nobody is really competing anymore - oh a ANOTHER camera? It's 10 nm thinner! Literally almost all these features are who cares to users, they are just creating an update treadmill for a product that proxies as a social status symbol.
  - npteljes 1y ago
    If consumers make their choices according to features like this - then the competition is real and the innovation must happen, otherwise the company is left behind. Exactly as you say: "they are just creating an update treadmill for a product that proxies as a social status symbol" - that is exactly what's happening. Not just "full-time designers need to be designing something", as grandparent put it. Companies live or die by these developments.
    - CRConrad 1y ago
      There might be competition, but competition for status symbols is not actual innovation. You seem to have got your concepts muddled by corporate marketing-speak.
- CRConrad 1y ago
  > Insult aside What freaking "insult"?

npteljes 1y ago

Insult aside, consider the following. Are almost all companies doing this much effort just because of some rouge elements within the company, or are they doing it because they see a direct benefit from it with regarding to sales? What people tell, and how people act are two very different things. For multiple reasons too, I'm not meaning this in a malicious way at all. Feedback is very useful, but needs careful interpretation. Tangential, but this is why telemetry works very well: it paints a more realistic picture compared to what people report.

hobs 1y ago
Competition forces innovation, but in the absence of real innovation you get this crap. Change for changes sake. Nobody is really competing anymore - oh a ANOTHER camera? It's 10 nm thinner! Literally almost all these features are who cares to users, they are just creating an update treadmill for a product that proxies as a social status symbol.
- npteljes 1y ago
  If consumers make their choices according to features like this - then the competition is real and the innovation must happen, otherwise the company is left behind. Exactly as you say: "they are just creating an update treadmill for a product that proxies as a social status symbol" - that is exactly what's happening. Not just "full-time designers need to be designing something", as grandparent put it. Companies live or die by these developments.
  - CRConrad 1y ago
    There might be competition, but competition for status symbols is not actual innovation. You seem to have got your concepts muddled by corporate marketing-speak.
CRConrad 1y ago
> Insult aside What freaking "insult"?