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The project is what spawned the thought process. Because it has me interacting with a generation of internet users who view the internet very different, cultura

The project is what spawned the thought process. Because it has me interacting with a generation of internet users who view the internet very different, culturally and socially to the one I grew up on in the 90's and early 2000's You also seem to have completely glossed over the critiques of the fact the internet of today is predominantly designed to extract money from its users, either through turning them into machines to milk for "content" or through spying on them to harvest data for advertisers

Aurornis 1y ago
> The project is what spawned the thought process. Because it has me interacting with a generation of internet users You keep referring to a “generation of internet users” but that thread is about a very hyper-niche bubble. Most young people aren’t in the Fediverse, aren’t interested in retro compute projects, aren’t contributing to open source. The list goes on and on. You’re talking about experience with a few young people who self-selected into this very tiny bubble but you’re presenting it as a generalization across young people.
- CursedSilicon 1y ago
  Why do you keep refusing to engage with the latter points about the internet being a rent-seeking capitalism hellscape? Is it just easier to select chunks of my argument you disagree with and try to dismiss the entire thing based on those objections?
  - squigz 1y ago
    Because your points about the state of the Internet (and by extension society itself) are wrapped in complaints and generalizations about "young people" that aren't true.
    - CursedSilicon 1y ago
      When I criticized things like there being "five websites" and up and down this thread you yourself (and others, of course) are citing centralized platforms like Discord and Reddit and Facebook? I think you're getting too hung up on my description of "young people" and missing the reality you're arguing in favor of the very things I criticized
  - qualeed 1y ago
    You have two main points, it seems. 1) The internet is heavily influenced by capitalism now. 2) The younger generation as a whole interacts with the internet in a certain way. I don't see why it's a problem to agree with one and disagree with the other. I don't think they are "dismissing" the points about the money-related stuff. They just don't agree that your experience generalizes to all of society's young people.

Aurornis 1y ago

> The project is what spawned the thought process. Because it has me interacting with a generation of internet users You keep referring to a “generation of internet users” but that thread is about a very hyper-niche bubble. Most young people aren’t in the Fediverse, aren’t interested in retro compute projects, aren’t contributing to open source. The list goes on and on. You’re talking about experience with a few young people who self-selected into this very tiny bubble but you’re presenting it as a generalization across young people.

CursedSilicon 1y ago
Why do you keep refusing to engage with the latter points about the internet being a rent-seeking capitalism hellscape? Is it just easier to select chunks of my argument you disagree with and try to dismiss the entire thing based on those objections?
- squigz 1y ago
  Because your points about the state of the Internet (and by extension society itself) are wrapped in complaints and generalizations about "young people" that aren't true.
  - CursedSilicon 1y ago
    When I criticized things like there being "five websites" and up and down this thread you yourself (and others, of course) are citing centralized platforms like Discord and Reddit and Facebook? I think you're getting too hung up on my description of "young people" and missing the reality you're arguing in favor of the very things I criticized
- qualeed 1y ago
  You have two main points, it seems. 1) The internet is heavily influenced by capitalism now. 2) The younger generation as a whole interacts with the internet in a certain way. I don't see why it's a problem to agree with one and disagree with the other. I don't think they are "dismissing" the points about the money-related stuff. They just don't agree that your experience generalizes to all of society's young people.