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You think that one-liner on TV was the whole of the Russia/Trump collusion scandal?

lazide 1y ago
Anyone claiming ‘that never happened’ while missing the obvious direct statement from Trump himself is a delusional idiot, not counting everything else going on. The rest of the evidence makes it even more damning.
- gadders 1y ago
  I see what you are saying. Makes perfect sense. Trump worked on a massive plan with Putin to influence the US election. However, rather than bothering with encrypted messages, dead drops etc, they both decided that the best way to manage this TOP SECRET PLOT was for Trump to ask for help from Russia in a TV interview.
  - lazide 1y ago
    And then verifiably received that help. (The one sided targeted email leaks right afterwards) Who is dumber - the one who does the dumb thing, or the one who refuses to believe that the person did the dumb thing literally right in front of them, and then refuses to act. No one has to be sophisticated when the world is willfully this stupid. The US is like the wife that insists their husband is faithful (and punishes the kids who try to say something) while the husband is literally cheating right in front of them.
    - gadders 1y ago
      You appear to be factually wrong. PBS: "“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” Trump said in a July 27, 2016 news conference." Wikipedia: These emails were subsequently leaked by DCLeaks in June and July 2016[2] and by WikiLeaks on July 22, 2016, just before the 2016 Democratic National Convention. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Commi...
      - lazide 1y ago
        How am I wrong, exactly? The RNC systems were also hacked, and their emails never released. [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rnc-email-china-hack-b2703814.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...] It’s this shit that makes everyone laugh at people doing what you’re doing. Because you’re incredibly dumb.
        gadders 1y ago
        You're wrong because the emails were hacked and released before Trump ever asked. But as I'm learning, you can't argue people out of a conspiracy theory.
        lazide 1y ago
        He was asking them (in this case) to hack Hillary’s emails. You know, his political opponent at the time? But I guess it’s true that he could literally shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it, eh? [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/23/donald-trump-immune-shoot-fifth-avenue-murder https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/23/donald-trump...]
        gadders 1y ago
        These are called jokes. Have you heard of those? A bit like when Barrack Obama joked that his bowling was like the special olympics.

Anyone claiming ‘that never happened’ while missing the obvious direct statement from Trump himself is a delusional idiot, not counting everything else going on. The rest of the evidence makes it even more damning.

gadders 1y ago
I see what you are saying. Makes perfect sense. Trump worked on a massive plan with Putin to influence the US election. However, rather than bothering with encrypted messages, dead drops etc, they both decided that the best way to manage this TOP SECRET PLOT was for Trump to ask for help from Russia in a TV interview.
- lazide 1y ago
  And then verifiably received that help. (The one sided targeted email leaks right afterwards) Who is dumber - the one who does the dumb thing, or the one who refuses to believe that the person did the dumb thing literally right in front of them, and then refuses to act. No one has to be sophisticated when the world is willfully this stupid. The US is like the wife that insists their husband is faithful (and punishes the kids who try to say something) while the husband is literally cheating right in front of them.
  - gadders 1y ago
    You appear to be factually wrong. PBS: "“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” Trump said in a July 27, 2016 news conference." Wikipedia: These emails were subsequently leaked by DCLeaks in June and July 2016[2] and by WikiLeaks on July 22, 2016, just before the 2016 Democratic National Convention. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Commi...
    - lazide 1y ago
      How am I wrong, exactly? The RNC systems were also hacked, and their emails never released. [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rnc-email-china-hack-b2703814.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...] It’s this shit that makes everyone laugh at people doing what you’re doing. Because you’re incredibly dumb.
      - gadders 1y ago
        You're wrong because the emails were hacked and released before Trump ever asked. But as I'm learning, you can't argue people out of a conspiracy theory.
        lazide 1y ago
        He was asking them (in this case) to hack Hillary’s emails. You know, his political opponent at the time? But I guess it’s true that he could literally shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it, eh? [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/23/donald-trump-immune-shoot-fifth-avenue-murder https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/23/donald-trump...]
        gadders 1y ago
        These are called jokes. Have you heard of those? A bit like when Barrack Obama joked that his bowling was like the special olympics.