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> this is propaganda. There's no way to substantiate this claim. 1. Israel blocks aid agencies besides their own from accessing gaza. This is undisputed fact.

> this is propaganda. There's no way to substantiate this claim. 1. Israel blocks aid agencies besides their own from accessing gaza. This is undisputed fact. 2. All evidence from doctors and reporters on the ground suggests that people are starving. Videos of people rioting over food, also pretty solid evidence people are starving. 3. While it is possible “hamas” is stealing food and not sharing - this is a problem easily solved by allowing in more fucking food. 4. If israel actually wanted to kneecap hamas inside gaza flooding it with food would be what they would do. Food has very little value when it’s abundant. You seem happy to let people starve to death while we wait and see if it’s “true” or not. Disgusting if it’s true, and also disgusting if it turns out to not be true. So where is the propaganda? > It feels entitled to come up with resolutions that put the blame on one of the parties in the conflict Sorry, UNICEF? Citation needed. All i see is them saying violence in gaza is putting children at risk, and there should be a ceasefire. Do you believe that’s blaming someone?

crabbone 1y ago
> Israel blocks aid agencies besides their own from accessing gaza. This is undisputed fact. You are who thinks this is a fact. But it isn't. The aid is being delivered to Gaza. A bunch of international organizations are there, cooking meals, distributing supplies etc. Not only Israeli agencies participate in aid delivery. For example WCK is still there. Israel, legitimately, doesn't allow aid from organizations that feed it directly to Hamas. WCK isn't one of those, so they are allowed to operate there. > While it is possible “hamas” is stealing food and not sharing - this is a problem easily solved by allowing in more fucking food. It's not just possible, it's pretty much a given, since they used to be in charge of distribution. They shot people queuing for aid. They sold aid (which was reported by multiple news agencies). They stockpiled aid for their own fighters, which was acknowledged by the prisoners IDF took. Allowing more food for Hamas will change nothing. They benefit from starvation crisis. It allows them to extort resources both domestically and internationally. So far, Gaza received a lot more aid than eg. South Sudan, and Gaza's population is about 1/5 of South Sudan. > You seem happy to let people starve to death Why are you getting so emotional over something I haven't said or implied? I'm not starving anyone to death. I live thousands of kilometers from the events at the moment. I have more information than you do about what's happening there because I used to live in the area and can read the news in the local languages / I know where to find such news, but that's about it. > So where is the propaganda? You just wrote it. Well, you didn't invent it, you simply mindlessly repeated it, but still.
- kennywinker 1y ago
  > you simply mindlessly repeated it, but still. Right, not like how you mindfully repeat “facts” sourced directly to the idf - a notoriously unbiased and honest source.

crabbone 1y ago

> Israel blocks aid agencies besides their own from accessing gaza. This is undisputed fact. You are who thinks this is a fact. But it isn't. The aid is being delivered to Gaza. A bunch of international organizations are there, cooking meals, distributing supplies etc. Not only Israeli agencies participate in aid delivery. For example WCK is still there. Israel, legitimately, doesn't allow aid from organizations that feed it directly to Hamas. WCK isn't one of those, so they are allowed to operate there. > While it is possible “hamas” is stealing food and not sharing - this is a problem easily solved by allowing in more fucking food. It's not just possible, it's pretty much a given, since they used to be in charge of distribution. They shot people queuing for aid. They sold aid (which was reported by multiple news agencies). They stockpiled aid for their own fighters, which was acknowledged by the prisoners IDF took. Allowing more food for Hamas will change nothing. They benefit from starvation crisis. It allows them to extort resources both domestically and internationally. So far, Gaza received a lot more aid than eg. South Sudan, and Gaza's population is about 1/5 of South Sudan. > You seem happy to let people starve to death Why are you getting so emotional over something I haven't said or implied? I'm not starving anyone to death. I live thousands of kilometers from the events at the moment. I have more information than you do about what's happening there because I used to live in the area and can read the news in the local languages / I know where to find such news, but that's about it. > So where is the propaganda? You just wrote it. Well, you didn't invent it, you simply mindlessly repeated it, but still.

kennywinker 1y ago
> you simply mindlessly repeated it, but still. Right, not like how you mindfully repeat “facts” sourced directly to the idf - a notoriously unbiased and honest source.