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Hmm why do many countries not want to accept Palestinians? - Supported Saddam in Kuwait - Supported Saddam in Iraq - Massacred Christians in Lebanon - Tried

Hmm why do many countries not want to accept Palestinians? - Supported Saddam in Kuwait - Supported Saddam in Iraq - Massacred Christians in Lebanon - Tried to overthrow Jordan - Caused chaos in Syria - Destabilized Libya - Aligned with iranian axis despite gulf states (eg Saudi) hosting at that time - Complained about Egypt-Israel peace despite the former being the only country to send men to die for them - Sent jihadists into Sinai - Ran military ops out of Tunis after Tunisia agreed to host Arafat causing Tunis to get bombed - Repeatedly militarized "refugee camps" Like whether what israel is doing is wrong (it is) is independent of whether or not the palestinians kinda suck (they do)

lbrito 1y ago
Look at the demographics of Palestine. They are very young. Most of them weren't even born when most of those supposed things supposedly happened. Are you implying that parent's sins transfer to their children?
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Are you implying that parent's sins transfer to their children? OP isn't making a moral argument. They're making a practical one. It's practical for a potential host to be wary about accepting refugees given the positions of their predecessors. Particularly when the current popuations are engaged in decades (centuries?) old disputes based on ancestral rights.
skybrian 1y ago
It's not that many people if divided up among many countries. These don't seem like reasons not to accept women and children from a war zone as refugees. Perhaps with some limits.
- landl0rd 1y ago
  Exactly. It's not that many people and they still get into a ton of trouble. That seems like an excellent reason to either not accept them, or to enforce that they need to be dispersed widely enough to prevent forming a community and conducting violence in its name until they're back in palestine. Like we can even blame the way things are on the israelis, or at least majorly on them, but that doesn't change the calculus for other arab states.
  - tguvot 1y ago
    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3296212/malaysians-rethink-support-palestinian-refugees-after-viral-incidents https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3296212/malay...
  - skybrian 1y ago
    Have any European countries volunteered to take more refugees from Gaza? (I wouldn't expect such a thing from the Trump administration.)
    - tguvot 1y ago
      european countries run as fast as possible to acknowledge new syrian government in order to declare that syria is safe/stable so all syrian refugees will leave

lbrito 1y ago

Look at the demographics of Palestine. They are very young. Most of them weren't even born when most of those supposed things supposedly happened. Are you implying that parent's sins transfer to their children?

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> Are you implying that parent's sins transfer to their children? OP isn't making a moral argument. They're making a practical one. It's practical for a potential host to be wary about accepting refugees given the positions of their predecessors. Particularly when the current popuations are engaged in decades (centuries?) old disputes based on ancestral rights.

skybrian 1y ago

It's not that many people if divided up among many countries. These don't seem like reasons not to accept women and children from a war zone as refugees. Perhaps with some limits.

landl0rd 1y ago
Exactly. It's not that many people and they still get into a ton of trouble. That seems like an excellent reason to either not accept them, or to enforce that they need to be dispersed widely enough to prevent forming a community and conducting violence in its name until they're back in palestine. Like we can even blame the way things are on the israelis, or at least majorly on them, but that doesn't change the calculus for other arab states.
- tguvot 1y ago
  https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3296212/malaysians-rethink-support-palestinian-refugees-after-viral-incidents https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3296212/malay...
- skybrian 1y ago
  Have any European countries volunteered to take more refugees from Gaza? (I wouldn't expect such a thing from the Trump administration.)
  - tguvot 1y ago
    european countries run as fast as possible to acknowledge new syrian government in order to declare that syria is safe/stable so all syrian refugees will leave