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I understand the frustration with Hamas, but I think it's important to consider the reality on the ground. Most Palestinians in Gaza are unarmed, displaced, and

I understand the frustration with Hamas, but I think it's important to consider the reality on the ground. Most Palestinians in Gaza are unarmed, displaced, and struggling to survive under extreme conditions - with limited food, water, and medical care. Expecting them to rise up against a heavily armed and entrenched group like Hamas, especially while under bombardment, seems unrealistic. It's not that they don't want change - it's that they lack the means and safety to pursue it. I think we should be careful not to blame civilians for the actions of those in power, especially when they’re already suffering so much.

breppp 1y ago
Maybe, but the entire story we are seeing here is supposed to be Palestinian armed "resistance against an occupation", willing to fight against a stronger enemy for almost a century now. Why do you think in the at least six different armed groups in Gaza, there is not one ready to fight against the people who have effectively taken them hostages? Why in the around half of million extended families of the 100,000 people associated with Hamas in Gaza, there is not enough political pressure to stop?
- taylodl 1y ago
  Even if one believes the people of Gaza bear some responsibility for not overthrowing Hamas, that doesn't justify Israel for violating international humanitarian law. Collective punishment, targeting civilians, or blocking humanitarian aid are considered war crimes regardless of who governs a territory. Accountability for one party doesn't erase the legal and moral obligations of the other.
  - breppp 1y ago
    Yes and that's why there's an effort to transfer food as I quoted above. However, I believe most arguments on this subject presuppose Palestinians as people without agency, Hamas as a non-Palestinian organization which is incidentally the government of Gaza
    - taylodl 1y ago
      Trump is my president yet neither I, nor the majority of Americans, voted for him. So what's your point?

breppp 1y ago

Maybe, but the entire story we are seeing here is supposed to be Palestinian armed "resistance against an occupation", willing to fight against a stronger enemy for almost a century now. Why do you think in the at least six different armed groups in Gaza, there is not one ready to fight against the people who have effectively taken them hostages? Why in the around half of million extended families of the 100,000 people associated with Hamas in Gaza, there is not enough political pressure to stop?

taylodl 1y ago
Even if one believes the people of Gaza bear some responsibility for not overthrowing Hamas, that doesn't justify Israel for violating international humanitarian law. Collective punishment, targeting civilians, or blocking humanitarian aid are considered war crimes regardless of who governs a territory. Accountability for one party doesn't erase the legal and moral obligations of the other.
- breppp 1y ago
  Yes and that's why there's an effort to transfer food as I quoted above. However, I believe most arguments on this subject presuppose Palestinians as people without agency, Hamas as a non-Palestinian organization which is incidentally the government of Gaza
  - taylodl 1y ago
    Trump is my president yet neither I, nor the majority of Americans, voted for him. So what's your point?