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FUD designed to allow the genocide to continue. In short: gazans are all issued ID numbers at birth. The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dea

FUD designed to allow the genocide to continue. In short: gazans are all issued ID numbers at birth. The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. On top of that, so far (afaik since 2009 when hamas came to power) nobody has caught them in a lie. So they’ve a track record of telling the truth, and give us data that we can smell-test for fraud and it passes. So yes, nobody else is on the ground to produce independent numbers, so the numbers can’t be fully verified. But using that doubt as an excuse for inaction in the face of ethnic cleansing and genocide is fucking disgusting.

BigJ1211 1y ago
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-he...
dismalaf 1y ago
> The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. On top of that, so far (afaik since 2009 when hamas came to power) nobody has caught them in a lie. So they’ve a track record of telling the truth, and give us data that we can smell-test for fraud and it passes. If you comment that they give us this data, surely you have a link to said data?
- kennywinker 1y ago
  Surely you have the ability to google and find out for yourself. I don’t know if the data is available to the public, or just to journalists - but numerous reputable outlets have reported on this.
  - dismalaf 1y ago
    > The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. > I don’t know if the data is available to the public, or just to journalists Do you know what "published" means? Hint, public and publish come from the same root word...
HappyPanacea 1y ago
No, they claim that a much higher percentage of those killed was civilians then was really was
- kennywinker 1y ago
  And you know this because?
  - HappyPanacea 1y ago
    Read this https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox/Israel+%26+Palestine/Goldstone+report https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox/Israel+%26+Palestine/Go... carefully. tl;dr many supposedly "civilian" police force were al-Qassam Brigades members, bringing the alleged 17% combatant rate to around 40%
- lawlessone 1y ago
  The fact the IDF panic shot three escaping unarmed barely clothed hostages should make anyone question their statistics here.

BigJ1211 1y ago

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-he...

dismalaf 1y ago

> The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. On top of that, so far (afaik since 2009 when hamas came to power) nobody has caught them in a lie. So they’ve a track record of telling the truth, and give us data that we can smell-test for fraud and it passes. If you comment that they give us this data, surely you have a link to said data?

kennywinker 1y ago
Surely you have the ability to google and find out for yourself. I don’t know if the data is available to the public, or just to journalists - but numerous reputable outlets have reported on this.
- dismalaf 1y ago
  > The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. > I don’t know if the data is available to the public, or just to journalists Do you know what "published" means? Hint, public and publish come from the same root word...

HappyPanacea 1y ago

No, they claim that a much higher percentage of those killed was civilians then was really was

kennywinker 1y ago
And you know this because?
- HappyPanacea 1y ago
  Read this https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox/Israel+%26+Palestine/Goldstone+report https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox/Israel+%26+Palestine/Go... carefully. tl;dr many supposedly "civilian" police force were al-Qassam Brigades members, bringing the alleged 17% combatant rate to around 40%
lawlessone 1y ago
The fact the IDF panic shot three escaping unarmed barely clothed hostages should make anyone question their statistics here.