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>Eh, the most believable conspiracy is gain of function research accidentally escaped a lab because of poor controls and then was covered up. Four years ago yo

>Eh, the most believable conspiracy is gain of function research accidentally escaped a lab because of poor controls and then was covered up. Four years ago you couldn't even remotely mention this as a possibility; even, and particularly, among "the most educated"™ and "the most tolerant"™. Now plenty of them believe that was the case. Don't know if Overton window is behind or if there was some sort manipulation involved, but it's definitely something I've noticed.

almosthere 1y ago
And yet still, your text fades gray. I think the larger announcements yet to come, will crumble the current religion we call Science. I'd like to get back to REAL science with a lower case s.
- colechristensen 1y ago
  Both of you have a screw loose and need to stop accepting the premise of the loudest idiots on social media and assuming the people who speak the loudest are representative of the feelings of people at large.
  - almosthere 1y ago
    Specifically point out why you want to insult instead of argue on the facts. The screw must be loose in that direction.
    - colechristensen 1y ago
      > Four years ago you couldn't even remotely mention this as a possibility; even, and particularly, among "the most educated"™ and "the most tolerant"™. > will crumble the current religion we call Science Facts: people who talk like this are pontificating nonsense and are never worth talking to because speech like this indicates a person has zero interest in an actual discussion. I want to insult instead of debate because I truly believe people who talk like this need to be publicly shamed for discourse like this. It is a root cause of the destabilization of our society and needs to be stopped. You're talking like an AM radio conspiracy call-in nutjob. If you want to be taken seriously, don't channel the ghost of Rush Limbaugh in your rhetoric.
      - ryandv 1y ago
        > I want to insult instead of debate because I truly believe people who talk like this need to be publicly shamed for discourse like this. I will forever remember how charitable you and the white progressives have always been in their discourse, and will reflect the same demeanour to those who earnestly believe that child genital mutilation will transubstantiate the male flesh into female like some barbaric 21st century eucharistic rite.
  - moralestapia 1y ago
    Personal attacks are not cool here. Read the site's guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
unethical_ban 1y ago
Personally, I never argued whether it was China or not. It wasn't pertinent. Fox News didn't give a hoot about discussing the origins of viruses and preventing them in the future. They just wanted to sow doubt in science (vaccines) and make China bad comments and cough in people's faces. Now that the crisis is over, it's a fair question to ask where it came from.

almosthere 1y ago

And yet still, your text fades gray. I think the larger announcements yet to come, will crumble the current religion we call Science. I'd like to get back to REAL science with a lower case s.

colechristensen 1y ago
Both of you have a screw loose and need to stop accepting the premise of the loudest idiots on social media and assuming the people who speak the loudest are representative of the feelings of people at large.
- almosthere 1y ago
  Specifically point out why you want to insult instead of argue on the facts. The screw must be loose in that direction.
  - colechristensen 1y ago
    > Four years ago you couldn't even remotely mention this as a possibility; even, and particularly, among "the most educated"™ and "the most tolerant"™. > will crumble the current religion we call Science Facts: people who talk like this are pontificating nonsense and are never worth talking to because speech like this indicates a person has zero interest in an actual discussion. I want to insult instead of debate because I truly believe people who talk like this need to be publicly shamed for discourse like this. It is a root cause of the destabilization of our society and needs to be stopped. You're talking like an AM radio conspiracy call-in nutjob. If you want to be taken seriously, don't channel the ghost of Rush Limbaugh in your rhetoric.
    - ryandv 1y ago
      > I want to insult instead of debate because I truly believe people who talk like this need to be publicly shamed for discourse like this. I will forever remember how charitable you and the white progressives have always been in their discourse, and will reflect the same demeanour to those who earnestly believe that child genital mutilation will transubstantiate the male flesh into female like some barbaric 21st century eucharistic rite.
- moralestapia 1y ago
  Personal attacks are not cool here. Read the site's guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

unethical_ban 1y ago

Personally, I never argued whether it was China or not. It wasn't pertinent. Fox News didn't give a hoot about discussing the origins of viruses and preventing them in the future. They just wanted to sow doubt in science (vaccines) and make China bad comments and cough in people's faces. Now that the crisis is over, it's a fair question to ask where it came from.