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New federal data show H-1B and H-4 visas now capture 82% of all new US tech jobs

44 points by DonnyV 1y ago

toomuchtodo 1y ago
New Trump Immigration Policy: Ending The H-1B Visa Lottery - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/21/new-trump-immigration-policy-ending-the-h-1b-visa-lottery/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/21/new-t... - July 21st, 2025 Computer science has one of the highest unemployment rates - https://www.newsweek.com/computer-science-popular-college-major-has-one-highest-unemployment-rates-2076514 https://www.newsweek.com/computer-science-popular-college-ma... - May 23rd, 2025 Modification of Registration Requirement for Petitioners Seeking To File Cap-Subject H-1B Petitions - https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/08/2021-00183/modification-of-registration-requirement-for-petitioners-seeking-to-file-cap-subject-h-1b-petitions https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/08/2021-00... - January 8th, 2025
- dixie_land 1y ago
  This is a welcome change but we can go even further: we should raise the bar for permanent immigration, but eliminate the intermediate steps in between (even green cards). If you are exceptionally qualified you should just become a citizen (with the responsibilities and pledge of loyalty as a citizen). And we should fast track that for those who qualify (again, on a significantly higher bar)
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  - mullen 1y ago
    No way. You need an immigration system that has a "try before you buy" aspect to it. Not all educated immigrates are going to like the US and are not going to be a fit for the US. It's not just about keeping out bad education, it's making sure that those who think they want to want to immigrate to the US want to be part of the US.
  - UncleEntity 1y ago
    > If you are exceptionally qualified you should just become a citizen... Exceptionally qualified at what, doing some job nobody else wants to do? I suspect a big part of "US exceptionalism" is that people who were shitty at math were allowed to immigrate and they either saw a niche in the market or their kids were able to 'learn all the math' and contribute to the Silicon Valley Cesspool.
oldpersonintx2 1y ago
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the_real_cher 1y ago
So the tech industry for US citizens is mostly dead. Companies are even incentivized to hire over Americans due to OPT and no payroll tax. What industries are next?
- GenerWork 1y ago
  >no payroll tax Is this for real? Companies don't have to pay payroll tax on H1Bs?
  - mullen 1y ago
    No, they have to pay it. Everyone has to pay payroll tax on all employees.
    - the_real_cher 1y ago
      wrong https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-student-liability-for-social-security-and-medicare-taxes?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore... https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-and-exchange-visitors/optional-practical-training-opt-for-f-1-students?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-...
  - nblgbg 1y ago
    No, every one has to pay.
    - the_real_cher 1y ago
      you are wrong https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-student-liability-for-social-security-and-medicare-taxes?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore... https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-and-exchange-visitors/optional-practical-training-opt-for-f-1-students?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-...
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Dilettante_ 1y ago
I couldn't see any source for the figure in the headline?
- fenced_load 1y ago
  That's because this tweet is written to maximize engagement. Number 3 uses a screenshot of some other random tweet that says all people of indian descent in the US are "agents" (5.1 million people).
  - bdhe 1y ago
    Wow, the xenophobia is getting pretty blatant.

44 points by DonnyV 1y ago

New Trump Immigration Policy: Ending The H-1B Visa Lottery - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/21/new-trump-immigration-policy-ending-the-h-1b-visa-lottery/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/21/new-t... - July 21st, 2025 Computer science has one of the highest unemployment rates - https://www.newsweek.com/computer-science-popular-college-major-has-one-highest-unemployment-rates-2076514 https://www.newsweek.com/computer-science-popular-college-ma... - May 23rd, 2025 Modification of Registration Requirement for Petitioners Seeking To File Cap-Subject H-1B Petitions - https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/08/2021-00183/modification-of-registration-requirement-for-petitioners-seeking-to-file-cap-subject-h-1b-petitions https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/08/2021-00... - January 8th, 2025

dixie_land 1y ago
This is a welcome change but we can go even further: we should raise the bar for permanent immigration, but eliminate the intermediate steps in between (even green cards). If you are exceptionally qualified you should just become a citizen (with the responsibilities and pledge of loyalty as a citizen). And we should fast track that for those who qualify (again, on a significantly higher bar)
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- mullen 1y ago
  No way. You need an immigration system that has a "try before you buy" aspect to it. Not all educated immigrates are going to like the US and are not going to be a fit for the US. It's not just about keeping out bad education, it's making sure that those who think they want to want to immigrate to the US want to be part of the US.
- UncleEntity 1y ago
  > If you are exceptionally qualified you should just become a citizen... Exceptionally qualified at what, doing some job nobody else wants to do? I suspect a big part of "US exceptionalism" is that people who were shitty at math were allowed to immigrate and they either saw a niche in the market or their kids were able to 'learn all the math' and contribute to the Silicon Valley Cesspool.

oldpersonintx2 1y ago

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the_real_cher 1y ago

So the tech industry for US citizens is mostly dead. Companies are even incentivized to hire over Americans due to OPT and no payroll tax. What industries are next?

GenerWork 1y ago
>no payroll tax Is this for real? Companies don't have to pay payroll tax on H1Bs?
- mullen 1y ago
  No, they have to pay it. Everyone has to pay payroll tax on all employees.
  - the_real_cher 1y ago
    wrong https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-student-liability-for-social-security-and-medicare-taxes?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore... https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-and-exchange-visitors/optional-practical-training-opt-for-f-1-students?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-...
- nblgbg 1y ago
  No, every one has to pay.
  - the_real_cher 1y ago
    you are wrong https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-student-liability-for-social-security-and-medicare-taxes?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore... https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-and-exchange-visitors/optional-practical-training-opt-for-f-1-students?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/students-...
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Dilettante_ 1y ago

I couldn't see any source for the figure in the headline?

fenced_load 1y ago
That's because this tweet is written to maximize engagement. Number 3 uses a screenshot of some other random tweet that says all people of indian descent in the US are "agents" (5.1 million people).
- bdhe 1y ago
  Wow, the xenophobia is getting pretty blatant.