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I don't have anything but anecdotal experience here, but I think Google Chrome was gaming Windows Defender better for awhile, when Windows Defender treats you p

I don't have anything but anecdotal experience here, but I think Google Chrome was gaming Windows Defender better for awhile, when Windows Defender treats you poorly IO grinds to a halt and then some. I've never had Firefox issues on Linux.

nextos 1y ago
> I've never had Firefox issues on Linux. My experience on Linux running on very old hardware (4th Gen Intel) is also good. Firefox feels quick and snappy. It uses a reasonable amount of resources, and has a relatively modest memory footprint by modern browser standards. In comparison, Chromium makes my fans spin on every site and eats several GB of memory. The annoying part of Firefox is that development seems a bit stagnant in some areas, especially taking into consideration the amount of resources Mozilla has. For example, bookmarks and history still rely on a very old native UI that is quite clunky. Customization via user.js is too imperative and most options are largely undocumented.
- lillecarl 1y ago
  And no standard way to configure extensions is something I feel they could spearhead. Ofc extensions can store state however it wants, but more often than not I'm quite fond of my extension settings.
- horseradish7k 1y ago
  eh, i prefer the bookmark and history library window over the sidebar
porphyra 1y ago
I've had various Firefox issues on Linux such as mysterious bad frame rate that I wasn't able to track down (despite toggling every feature related to gpu acceleration in about:flags), slow startup (which I found was due to some dbus configuration), and inability to print (apparmor blocked cups).
- lillecarl 1y ago
  I'm certain people have issues, especially when you stick NVIDIA into the mix. I do always run rolling release software on "older"/well supported hardware with good drivers. (And I trust Firefox enough to not sandbox it though Flatpak or snaps) It's just an anecdote, but I've had several FF issues on Windows, might be a timeline thing however.
  - porphyra 1y ago
    Yes I hate how Ubuntu sandboxes firefox by default (even when you install it via apt, it secretly installs the snap instead). Terrible. I eventually had to use a PPA just to get firefox. Also, Nvidia is non-negotiable due to performance requirements and local deep learning experiments. I think Nvidia has gotten a lot better lately, even Sway (Wayland window manager) works these days. Incidentally I think the bad firefox framerates were only on i3 and not on Sway.
    - lillecarl 1y ago
      I'm docking my NVIDIA GPU with the vfio driver and have an Intel cheapest dGPU for my desktop. Then i attach the NVIDIA GPU to either a Windows VM or a NixOS one for gaming or "work". It takes space and PCIe lanes to do so however, so I run SATA6 drives still :) But if you can splurge, having multiple GPUs isn't unreasonable, as "Postgrest" docs says(0): Use a collection of sharp tools rather than building a big ball of mud. 0: https://docs.postgrest.org/en/v13/index.html#one-thing-well https://docs.postgrest.org/en/v13/index.html#one-thing-well
      - porphyra 1y ago
        I used to have both an AMD GPU and an Nvidia GPU and also dual boot Linux and Windows. But that is an incredible hassle. Nowadays, Nvidia on Linux works pretty well, and gaming on Linux on Steam often works flawlessly with one click, so it's more like a Swiss army knife rather than a big ball of mud.
        1y ago

nextos 1y ago

> I've never had Firefox issues on Linux. My experience on Linux running on very old hardware (4th Gen Intel) is also good. Firefox feels quick and snappy. It uses a reasonable amount of resources, and has a relatively modest memory footprint by modern browser standards. In comparison, Chromium makes my fans spin on every site and eats several GB of memory. The annoying part of Firefox is that development seems a bit stagnant in some areas, especially taking into consideration the amount of resources Mozilla has. For example, bookmarks and history still rely on a very old native UI that is quite clunky. Customization via user.js is too imperative and most options are largely undocumented.

lillecarl 1y ago
And no standard way to configure extensions is something I feel they could spearhead. Ofc extensions can store state however it wants, but more often than not I'm quite fond of my extension settings.
horseradish7k 1y ago
eh, i prefer the bookmark and history library window over the sidebar

porphyra 1y ago

I've had various Firefox issues on Linux such as mysterious bad frame rate that I wasn't able to track down (despite toggling every feature related to gpu acceleration in about:flags), slow startup (which I found was due to some dbus configuration), and inability to print (apparmor blocked cups).

lillecarl 1y ago
I'm certain people have issues, especially when you stick NVIDIA into the mix. I do always run rolling release software on "older"/well supported hardware with good drivers. (And I trust Firefox enough to not sandbox it though Flatpak or snaps) It's just an anecdote, but I've had several FF issues on Windows, might be a timeline thing however.
- porphyra 1y ago
  Yes I hate how Ubuntu sandboxes firefox by default (even when you install it via apt, it secretly installs the snap instead). Terrible. I eventually had to use a PPA just to get firefox. Also, Nvidia is non-negotiable due to performance requirements and local deep learning experiments. I think Nvidia has gotten a lot better lately, even Sway (Wayland window manager) works these days. Incidentally I think the bad firefox framerates were only on i3 and not on Sway.
  - lillecarl 1y ago
    I'm docking my NVIDIA GPU with the vfio driver and have an Intel cheapest dGPU for my desktop. Then i attach the NVIDIA GPU to either a Windows VM or a NixOS one for gaming or "work". It takes space and PCIe lanes to do so however, so I run SATA6 drives still :) But if you can splurge, having multiple GPUs isn't unreasonable, as "Postgrest" docs says(0): Use a collection of sharp tools rather than building a big ball of mud. 0: https://docs.postgrest.org/en/v13/index.html#one-thing-well https://docs.postgrest.org/en/v13/index.html#one-thing-well
    - porphyra 1y ago
      I used to have both an AMD GPU and an Nvidia GPU and also dual boot Linux and Windows. But that is an incredible hassle. Nowadays, Nvidia on Linux works pretty well, and gaming on Linux on Steam often works flawlessly with one click, so it's more like a Swiss army knife rather than a big ball of mud.
      - 1y ago