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I'm here and I don't see it. It sounds like a kind of American provincialism to think that everything revolves around them.

by mopsi 1y ago

bigbadfeline 1y ago
> I'm here and I don't see it. You mean in Ukraine, right? It's quite normal to not see something that's been carefully designed to be invisible. > It sounds like a kind of American provincialism to think that everything revolves around them. Those words are a sure sign of serious brainwashing, similar to the Russian side. In the meantime the dead keep piling up... Quo bono?
- mopsi 1y ago
  > You mean in Ukraine, right? No. > Those words are a sure sign of serious brainwashing, Hardly. Pinning all recent human history on the CIA seems like a "to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail" kind of thing. The world is far more complex than stale Usenet copypastas suggest, and the CIA is entirely outclassed by a number intelligence organizations in Eastern Europe purely it lacks an understanding of local history and culture. For the longest time, Eastern Europe has been academically taught through a Russian-centric lens. It's like learning the history of Africa through the perspective of colonial empires rather than the natives; gives barely any understanding what's going on between the different peoples of Africa. This has led to major intelligence failures, such as the failure to accurately predict the collapse of the USSR, which took CIA analysts by surprise. This, in turn, left everyone in Eastern Europe stunned: how could they be so completely oblivious to the facts on the ground?! That gave a lifelong immunity to the whole category of "almighty CIA" conspiracy theories.
  - bigbadfeline 1y ago
    I'm not concerned with bla-bla natives outside of them being sicced on each other like Pavlovian dogs. The history in general doesn't mater, life matters the most and that necessarily brings death into utmost scrutiny. I clearly sense that you cannot relate to issues of life and death, which puts your non-botness into serious question. Besides, I've never argued about who is doing the siccing, you're simply following your old context which happens to be wrong.
    - lazide 1y ago
      What kind of BS rant is this?
- lazide 1y ago
  No one in South America missed what was going on when it was happening.

I'm here and I don't see it. It sounds like a kind of American provincialism to think that everything revolves around them.

by mopsi 1y ago

I'm here and I don't see it. It sounds like a kind of American provincialism to think that everything revolves around them.

bigbadfeline 1y ago

> I'm here and I don't see it. You mean in Ukraine, right? It's quite normal to not see something that's been carefully designed to be invisible. > It sounds like a kind of American provincialism to think that everything revolves around them. Those words are a sure sign of serious brainwashing, similar to the Russian side. In the meantime the dead keep piling up... Quo bono?

mopsi 1y ago
> You mean in Ukraine, right? No. > Those words are a sure sign of serious brainwashing, Hardly. Pinning all recent human history on the CIA seems like a "to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail" kind of thing. The world is far more complex than stale Usenet copypastas suggest, and the CIA is entirely outclassed by a number intelligence organizations in Eastern Europe purely it lacks an understanding of local history and culture. For the longest time, Eastern Europe has been academically taught through a Russian-centric lens. It's like learning the history of Africa through the perspective of colonial empires rather than the natives; gives barely any understanding what's going on between the different peoples of Africa. This has led to major intelligence failures, such as the failure to accurately predict the collapse of the USSR, which took CIA analysts by surprise. This, in turn, left everyone in Eastern Europe stunned: how could they be so completely oblivious to the facts on the ground?! That gave a lifelong immunity to the whole category of "almighty CIA" conspiracy theories.
- bigbadfeline 1y ago
  I'm not concerned with bla-bla natives outside of them being sicced on each other like Pavlovian dogs. The history in general doesn't mater, life matters the most and that necessarily brings death into utmost scrutiny. I clearly sense that you cannot relate to issues of life and death, which puts your non-botness into serious question. Besides, I've never argued about who is doing the siccing, you're simply following your old context which happens to be wrong.
  - lazide 1y ago
    What kind of BS rant is this?
lazide 1y ago
No one in South America missed what was going on when it was happening.