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Tokyo is the most livable big city in the world, and the only one where housing is still vaguely affordable, because they constantly rebuild and regenerate. Lon

by lmm 1y ago

Tokyo is the most livable big city in the world, and the only one where housing is still vaguely affordable, because they constantly rebuild and regenerate. Long may it continue.

derr1 1y ago
I think the average rent is about $600 in a 'central' location. Any other big city in the world would be at least 3x the price, insane.
- rester324 1y ago
  I think this largely depends on the size of the flat. So how large of a flat are you referring to?
  - derr1 1y ago
    I believe this figure is for a 1R, which is a studio, averaged across all 23 wards. I got my data from: https://resources.realestate.co.jp/rent/what-is-the-average-rent-in-tokyo-2020-ranking-by-ward-and-layout/ https://resources.realestate.co.jp/rent/what-is-the-average-...
    - rester324 1y ago
      That page is very outdated. More than 4 years old! Not even close to the current prices! Also, just for your information, the japanese yen was continuously deflated in US dollars in the last 2 years or so. So even if it might seem from the US that this is cheap, the prices were soaring during the last 2-3 years in japanese yen. So if you were unlucky enough to have a japanese salary in the last few years (as the locals mostly do), chances are that your real wages got continuously deflated. Tokyo is actually much more expensive than other huge asian cities like Shanghai or Bangkok (denominated either in JPY or Remnibi, Thai Baht). That was also largely the reason for the LDP's abysmal election results this last Sunday.
pezezin 1y ago
Most livable according to whom? The only reference I can get is this, and Tokyo is not even in the top ten (but Osaka is #7) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Index
- doodaddy 1y ago
  You’re only looking at the most recent couple of years. Going over the entire set and Tokyo shows up toward the top frequently. Having lived there for a short while I would agree - Tokyo is very livable. I think it’s because the city is composed of smaller “cities” and the concentration of goods and services is distributed among neighborhoods.
  - pezezin 1y ago
    I don't know, I have visited Tokyo many times (the last time was two weeks ago), and IMHO it is cool to visit once in a while, but I am not sure I would want to live there. The overpopulation, the cramped buildings, and the brutal weather in summer is not exactly pleasant for me. Not to mention that Japanese culture is very difficult for most Westerners to adapt to with its million rules; heck, sometimes it is difficult even for native Japanese! That why I said that all these "most livable city" or "happiest country" indexes are very debatable.
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by lmm 1y ago

Tokyo is the most livable big city in the world, and the only one where housing is still vaguely affordable, because they constantly rebuild and regenerate. Long may it continue.

derr1 1y ago

I think the average rent is about $600 in a 'central' location. Any other big city in the world would be at least 3x the price, insane.

rester324 1y ago
I think this largely depends on the size of the flat. So how large of a flat are you referring to?
- derr1 1y ago
  I believe this figure is for a 1R, which is a studio, averaged across all 23 wards. I got my data from: https://resources.realestate.co.jp/rent/what-is-the-average-rent-in-tokyo-2020-ranking-by-ward-and-layout/ https://resources.realestate.co.jp/rent/what-is-the-average-...
  - rester324 1y ago
    That page is very outdated. More than 4 years old! Not even close to the current prices! Also, just for your information, the japanese yen was continuously deflated in US dollars in the last 2 years or so. So even if it might seem from the US that this is cheap, the prices were soaring during the last 2-3 years in japanese yen. So if you were unlucky enough to have a japanese salary in the last few years (as the locals mostly do), chances are that your real wages got continuously deflated. Tokyo is actually much more expensive than other huge asian cities like Shanghai or Bangkok (denominated either in JPY or Remnibi, Thai Baht). That was also largely the reason for the LDP's abysmal election results this last Sunday.

pezezin 1y ago

Most livable according to whom? The only reference I can get is this, and Tokyo is not even in the top ten (but Osaka is #7) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Index

doodaddy 1y ago
You’re only looking at the most recent couple of years. Going over the entire set and Tokyo shows up toward the top frequently. Having lived there for a short while I would agree - Tokyo is very livable. I think it’s because the city is composed of smaller “cities” and the concentration of goods and services is distributed among neighborhoods.
- pezezin 1y ago
  I don't know, I have visited Tokyo many times (the last time was two weeks ago), and IMHO it is cool to visit once in a while, but I am not sure I would want to live there. The overpopulation, the cramped buildings, and the brutal weather in summer is not exactly pleasant for me. Not to mention that Japanese culture is very difficult for most Westerners to adapt to with its million rules; heck, sometimes it is difficult even for native Japanese! That why I said that all these "most livable city" or "happiest country" indexes are very debatable.

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