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I had the same sentiment, but uv seems to have eliminated the competition. Installing uv using your OS package manager is enough as it can also download and ins

I had the same sentiment, but uv seems to have eliminated the competition. Installing uv using your OS package manager is enough as it can also download and install (isolated) Python interpreters as well.

frollogaston 1y ago
Except pip still exists and is default, and even if they adopted uv as default instead, all the legacy stuff takes years to change.
- NeutralForest 1y ago
  pip is not a package manager, it's only meant for installing packages. Also, uv has a pip-compliant interface through `uv pip` which lets you interface with pip easily.
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    Those shouldn't be separate things. uv is both. Anyway, the default package manager is pipenv https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/tutorials/managing-dependencies/ https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/tutorials/managing-de...
    - NeutralForest 1y ago
      You do you. I'm happy with uv.
- selcuka 1y ago
  > even if they adopted uv as default instead, all the legacy stuff takes years to change Who are "they"? I am not waiting for anyone to adopt uv. I've adopted it myself and forgotten about pip as uv is pip-compatible for all practical purposes.
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    The Python foundation first off, then companies and teams using it. If you're a 1-person team then sure you pick everything, but even then you have to worry about compatibility with other tools. Like, Heroku only got support recently: https://www.heroku.com/blog/local-speed-smooth-deploys-heroku-adds-support-uv/ https://www.heroku.com/blog/local-speed-smooth-deploys-herok... or if you're running someone else's code, maybe you have to figure out your own pyproject.toml Compare to npm which has been the default installer/manager in NodeJS since forever, so it's totally supported, and any git repo you happen to download has a package.json

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I had the same sentiment, but uv seems to have eliminated the competition. Installing uv using your OS package manager is enough as it can also download and ins

by selcuka 1y ago

frollogaston 1y ago
Except pip still exists and is default, and even if they adopted uv as default instead, all the legacy stuff takes years to change.
- NeutralForest 1y ago
  pip is not a package manager, it's only meant for installing packages. Also, uv has a pip-compliant interface through `uv pip` which lets you interface with pip easily.
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    Those shouldn't be separate things. uv is both. Anyway, the default package manager is pipenv https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/tutorials/managing-dependencies/ https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/tutorials/managing-de...
    - NeutralForest 1y ago
      You do you. I'm happy with uv.
- selcuka 1y ago
  > even if they adopted uv as default instead, all the legacy stuff takes years to change Who are "they"? I am not waiting for anyone to adopt uv. I've adopted it myself and forgotten about pip as uv is pip-compatible for all practical purposes.
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    The Python foundation first off, then companies and teams using it. If you're a 1-person team then sure you pick everything, but even then you have to worry about compatibility with other tools. Like, Heroku only got support recently: https://www.heroku.com/blog/local-speed-smooth-deploys-heroku-adds-support-uv/ https://www.heroku.com/blog/local-speed-smooth-deploys-herok... or if you're running someone else's code, maybe you have to figure out your own pyproject.toml Compare to npm which has been the default installer/manager in NodeJS since forever, so it's totally supported, and any git repo you happen to download has a package.json