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In my opinion, it is shameful he ran away. C'mon -- it was only 12 months jailtime; most likely he would be let go after 3-4 months for a good behavior. Serving

In my opinion, it is shameful he ran away. C'mon -- it was only 12 months jailtime; most likely he would be let go after 3-4 months for a good behavior. Serving this time he would be, technically, off the LE charts. This way he is just another "criminal on the run" and now sure prosecutor will be looking for more jailtime.

sp332 14y ago
He didn't "run away", he was already in Cambodia at the time of the trial & appeal. http://torrentfreak.com/jail-sentence-for-pirate-bay-co-founder-made-final-111014/ http://torrentfreak.com/jail-sentence-for-pirate-bay-co-foun... (edited for correctness)
- mindjiver 14y ago
  And how is not coming to your trial not running away?
  - tedunangst 14y ago
    The rules are different for people who run web sites we like.
  - batista 14y ago
    Because that would be running TOWARDS the trial. Why should he go back to a country he has left just to have a trial?
    - eli 14y ago
      Because if you don't show up they could send you to jail anyway without you having had a chance to make full defense?
      - rhizome 14y ago
        I was taught that trials in absentia are not really a great thing.
        tedunangst 14y ago
        The problem is evidence and particularly eyewitness testimony (unreliable to begin with) decay with age. Banning absentia trials creates an incentive for people to hang out for a few years, then come back and say "all this evidence is too old, you should reasonably doubt its integrity".
        rhizome 14y ago
        Was the Pirate Bay trial(s) subject to any of those weaknesses?
        tedunangst 14y ago
        Dunno. I thought the thread had wandered away from a specific case and was making a general comment. But yes, I believe that's something considered before proceeding in absentia.
  - dkersten 14y ago
    It says he was sick and in another country and the article posted today says he's still sick - would you go to a country that you're not currently living in, when you're seriously ill and in hospital, in order to go on trial and then to go to jail? Hell, for all we know, he was in hospital and didn't hear about it until after the trial. We don't know the circumstances.
corford 14y ago
Might have something to do with the $1 million dollar fine rather than the 1yr sentence.
rtp 14y ago
Since he only got 12 months of jail time, he can't get released early, and thus has to serve his full sentence.
guelo 14y ago
Spoken as someone who is ignorant of the horrors of being in jail for extended periods.
- tedunangst 14y ago
  Word on the internets is Swedish prisons are horrorfree.
  - CamperBob2 14y ago
    Of course, after Sweden extradites him to the US, the horror quotient may vary somewhat.
alpeb 14y ago
If it wasn't for prison rape, I'd love to have those 12 months of free food and roof, and lots of time to study.

sp332 14y ago

He didn't "run away", he was already in Cambodia at the time of the trial & appeal. http://torrentfreak.com/jail-sentence-for-pirate-bay-co-founder-made-final-111014/ http://torrentfreak.com/jail-sentence-for-pirate-bay-co-foun... (edited for correctness)

mindjiver 14y ago
And how is not coming to your trial not running away?
- tedunangst 14y ago
  The rules are different for people who run web sites we like.
- batista 14y ago
  Because that would be running TOWARDS the trial. Why should he go back to a country he has left just to have a trial?
  - eli 14y ago
    Because if you don't show up they could send you to jail anyway without you having had a chance to make full defense?
    - rhizome 14y ago
      I was taught that trials in absentia are not really a great thing.
      - tedunangst 14y ago
        The problem is evidence and particularly eyewitness testimony (unreliable to begin with) decay with age. Banning absentia trials creates an incentive for people to hang out for a few years, then come back and say "all this evidence is too old, you should reasonably doubt its integrity".
        rhizome 14y ago
        Was the Pirate Bay trial(s) subject to any of those weaknesses?
        tedunangst 14y ago
        Dunno. I thought the thread had wandered away from a specific case and was making a general comment. But yes, I believe that's something considered before proceeding in absentia.
- dkersten 14y ago
  It says he was sick and in another country and the article posted today says he's still sick - would you go to a country that you're not currently living in, when you're seriously ill and in hospital, in order to go on trial and then to go to jail? Hell, for all we know, he was in hospital and didn't hear about it until after the trial. We don't know the circumstances.

corford 14y ago

Might have something to do with the $1 million dollar fine rather than the 1yr sentence.

rtp 14y ago

Since he only got 12 months of jail time, he can't get released early, and thus has to serve his full sentence.

guelo 14y ago

Spoken as someone who is ignorant of the horrors of being in jail for extended periods.

tedunangst 14y ago
Word on the internets is Swedish prisons are horrorfree.
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  Of course, after Sweden extradites him to the US, the horror quotient may vary somewhat.

alpeb 14y ago

If it wasn't for prison rape, I'd love to have those 12 months of free food and roof, and lots of time to study.